So far ahead and then, well, British Leyland……….

[ThreeChordWonder]

Plus the MIM Fenders can never be as good as the American made guitars by our great craftspeople like Tadeo Gomez and Abby Ybarra!

The Chinese MGs turned out to be a lot better than the British MGs...

 

[Butcher of Strats]

There's an outfit in Houston rebuilding DeLoreans, even building new ones to order.

Florida man builds new Tri Five Chevy bodies up to rolling chassis'.
Calls himself Real Deal Steel.

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I had an original 57 and more recently sold an original 56.
I wonder of copies and partscaster style vintage cars are as good?

I think fakes are better but hey, old timey drivetrains with stuff like carburetors and drum brakes got charm I guess?
I was in the process of putting an '80s Corvette front suspension in my 56 when a friend made me an offer I chose not to refuse.

 

[ThreeChordWonder]

I have a partially hydro-locked AMG 6.2 V8 in my garage. Long story. If / when I get it running again, I quite fancy putting it in a pre huge plastic bumpers Merc SL.

 

[Butcher of Strats]

Not much for pics of the 56 in my cloud, this beast had a full roll cage and 7.6L, no wipers heat or back seat, just a gloriously stupid example of American motor vehicle excess.

Interesting example of GM cross sharing parts like Brit automakers, this got a P/O 9.3" rear end (pontiac & oldsmobile shared parts and sometimes Buick as well, while Chevy only shared with GMC and Cadillac. IIRC) Though bodies got shared in more GM brands, running gear often did not.

 

[Neil.C]

I live in a tiny town in Canada.
There's a Land Rover restoration business in town.
It's fun to paint there.

I love your work. Somewhat reminiscent of Hopper to my eyes. Perhaps it's the colourisation?

 

[PonyB]

I love your work. Somewhat reminiscent of Hopper to my eyes. Perhaps it's the colourisation?

Thank you for your kind words, Neil (my father's name, would that he had such praise for my work during his lifetime).
Hopper's paintings are a touchstone for me, the stillness and melancholy.

 

[stratman323]

Ford sold JLR to the Indian conglomerate Tata in the early 2000s IIRC, and the MG Marque soldiers on under Chinese ownership. MGs are not built in the UK any onger, however.

Pretty much nothing is built here anymore. This is now one huge call centre. And we're being undercut on that...

 

[stratman323]

Yet another British car with outstanding visual design. It's really a shame that they suffered in execution. Beautiful cars.

Designed by an Italian.

 

[stratman323]

(Sorry, still no color for sarcasm so my use of "wuz borne" had to suffice!)

Well yeah thats certainly a fair observation!
BUT, if you are surprised to learn that the US is lacking in some educatin' of the masses?
Hahahahahahahahaha try to keep up!

Then consider what specific symbols each nation chooses, to define some labeled but gradual historic shift in civilization.
Might each nation choose a symbolic shift in some other nation over a shift in their own locale?

Someone suggested the day the steam engine was invented, the revolution began.
IDK, did the world change on that day, or was the world looking at a revolution one year from that day?

As for chosen historic definitions of stuff, as a kid I immediately distrusted institutional education when they expected me to believe their repeated claims that Columbus discovered America.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha that was hilarious!
And yet they cut my scores if I refused to repeat their offensive and ridiculous claim.
Meanwhile I was expected to chant liberty and justice for all, while knowing we were right then in an ongoing revolution to make that chant true, by undoing old Jim Crow laws plus many other US injustices, which many Americans fought hard to keep the old way.
Another hilarious historic claim is that the hippy movement in the US accomplished nothing.
It was a Civil Rights movement, with many hard won battles.
Some continue even today.

As a Brit do you know off the top of your head what year "Blacks" gained the rigt to vote and what year women gained the right to vote in the US?
1869 and 1920. Interesting!
What year was child labor banned?
1938. Price of shoes went up.
How about drafted soldiers right to vote?
That was 1971, and before that date, you could not vote but you could be drafted and sent off to war.
But those dates are less important to a school kid in the UK?

So figure when US public schools were busy lying to kids saying Columbus discovered America (and it wuz full of Indians!), them schools wuz not saying the industrial revolution started the day the steam engine was invented by some furriner!
The flying shuttle sure, big new gun but a revolution is when the masses rise up using it. And it was happening in multiple nations.
I am certainly not trying to nail down dates and locations, more noting that we define nation based time lines.

Notably, the US role in the industrial revolution in the form of mass production in factories built around rivers for hydro power.
And for some reason millions of immigrants folks flocked to the US to get those factory jobs.
Nicer beds in the bunkhouses?
Indoor plumbing?

The US back then was so new and that was a big advantage in implementing a new model for industry.
Not much for old ways to hold on to.
Lots of stuff was done quite badly.

Long post!

I don't just believe what they taught me at school, I read books, magazines, I watch history documentaries, that sort of thing. One of B.B. King's several biographies has an appendix that explains how the sharecropper system worked after slavery ended - I don't recall hearing that stuff anywhere else. There are many ways for us to educate ourselves.

Your schools tell you about that wonderful Columbus chappy, ours gloss neatly over Colonialism & somehow forget to mention slavery. I know some of the dates you mention for the UK but not so much for the US. I know we got rid of slavery 30 odd years before you did, there was a significant delay in the US. What happened? Did the NRA block the changes?

But I do know a bit about the Industrial Revolution. As in most other things, it started here & then foreigners nicked our idea, undercut us, & made more money out of it than we did. Which is why Britain is where it is today.

Discuss.....

 

[uncle daddy]

I learned to drive on an Allegro. Yet again I have to defend this much maligned car. It was my Dad's choice rather than mine, but it was better than most of the alternatives. Certainly preferable to Leyland's rival offering, the Marina.

My father owned a Marina. It was a 1977 Jubilee 1.8TC that would do 0-60 in 9 seconds, and handle like a crashed helicopter. He would keep 2 paving slabs in the boot just to keep the thing from wobbling off the road on corners.

And it was green, a cross between line green and baby poop. My father is red/green colour blind!

 

[stratman323]

My father owned a Marina. It was a 1977 Jubilee 1.8TC that would do 0-60 in 9 seconds, and handle like a crashed helicopter. He would keep 2 paving slabs in the boot just to keep the thing from wobbling off the road on corners.

And it was green, a cross between line green and baby poop. My father is red/green colour blind!

I think that colour was called Limeflower. Were the seats blue?

 

[uncle daddy]

I think that colour was called Limeflower. Were the seats blue?

Brown, crush fabric

 

[stratman323]

Brown, crush fabric

Fabric? That was quite radical back in the days of plastic seats. I remember some of the catalogues from when Dad was buying cars in the 70s, & they came up with some weird colour combinations. Brown was an unusually popular colour for cars in the 1970s!

I'm not a fan of brown. It's no better on guitars than it is on cars...

 

[StratUp]

I'm not a fan of brown. It's no better on guitars than it is on cars...

Natural wood grain is good for both. Like Chevy Chase's car in Vacation.

 

[uncle daddy]

Bring back vinyl roof coverings!

 

[PonyB]

If any of you chaps can provide info on this likkle motorcar, t'would be much appreciated.
Until then I'm off to the local Leek Festival.
Cheerio!

 

[stratman323]

Bring back vinyl roof coverings!

Yeah, WTF was that all about? I wonder what they had been taking to make that seem like a good idea?

The 70s...