So... How Deep is the Pickup Rabbit Hole ?

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  1. Stonetone

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    Howdy all, so in my Quest of What if ? i was wanting to see if there really are differences in Pickups
    Especially with Alnico Combinations, the Pickups would be for My Revstar R-620 which have 2 Alnico V DCR of 8.3k (neck) and 8.8k (bridge), I do really like the tone but that voice inside my head keeps saying yes ...but what if? Meaning how would a combination of Alnico II in the neck and perhaps IV in the bridge sound?
    Anyone ever try such a combination ?
    My Revstar will be my go to Axe for fire’y type blues and classic 70´s rock, and for other types I’ll use a different guitar
    As for what amps I’m using? can be any of the 40 different amp models in my Helix

    So how deep does the pickup rabbit hole go ?


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  2. nadzab

    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    I'm not sure anyone ever made it to the bottom to find out. I will say that I've found the quest for good humbuckers a bit tougher than single-coils...but DiMarzio seems to always offer something that sounds good to my ears.

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  3. arct

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    Saturday Night Specials. I have them in a Strat and a Tele. They are IVs, which doesn't matter to me I'm not much of a magnet guy. Outstanding pickups.

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  4. Baelzebub

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    Pretty deep. But theres some intersting things at the bottom...
     
  5. Stonetone

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    if you survive the fall :D
     
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    This Is simple arithmetic.

    Rabbit hole depth = (your current pickup selection +1
     
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  8. StratMike10

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    The hardest part is not loosing yourself in the hole, there is a million pickups and they all have some kind of hype and "unique" tone, one can keep falling deeper and deeper (as I have) and find oneself trying to hear what other people are telling you to hear. In the end one may crawl out and after realizing life is too short to spend it splitting hairs.

    Find something of decent quality and make it do what you want it to do. Best luck man!
     
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    Indeed just looking to experiment a little and won’t spend a fortune either liking the tone rider and maybe even the Guitar Fetish just curious as to what a Vintage Alnico II and maybe IV will give as a result
     
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    You won't know till you try! :)
     
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    Theoretically, thirty miles. At that point, the rabbit hole would fill up with magma and you'd catch on fire.

    I say theoretically, because Earth is flat, and holes are merely illusions created by the l̶i̶z̶a̶r̶d̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ Roadrunner.
     
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    I have more pickups than guitars to put them in.

    First thing - a lot can be achieved by getting a Graphic EQ and sticking in the front of your signal chain. Use it for minor tweaks. That will eliminate the need to explore otherwise very similar pickups. You can get a Boss EQ-200 for the price of a set of pickups and have a lot of stuff ready to switch on the floor.
    Don't forget the simple stuff... adjusting pickup height / pole screws. All sorts of tonal variety and string response available there.

    I agree with the poster above. It seems to be easier to be satified with single coils than humbuckers. For singles, I have American Standards in one guitar and Texas Specials in another. They are very different but cover the strat tones in my head.

    There is more variation in humbuckers. But one of the nice things you can do with a humbucker is swap out the magnet. Pick up a couple of sets of Alinico II, II, IV, V and VII, plus some ceramics. That alone will cost you less than the price of one pickup. There is a whole stack of tone changes there.

    If you get really brave, you can start splitting humbuckers (physically... separating the bobbins from the base plate) and recombining them in new combinations. You want good eyes and steady hand for this. This was the birth of the now production Seymour Duncan 59/Custom hybrid. There are forums full of this.
     
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    The trick with pickups swapping:

    1-figure out the problem you have with your current pickup(s)
    2-adjust pickup heights, bass/treble tip, and screw pole heights
    3-measure and swap Pots 'n Caps, pots have a 20% tolerance range, caps a 10% range.
    4-last is swap pickups. Then go back to the top of the list and repeat.

    I used to swap pickups until I figured out how much movement the other steps can have on tone. Now I only swap pickups if I want a change of style like humbucker to single coil to whatever.

    If you are just interested in comparing pickups then get a Strat, swimming pool route, and swap loaded pickups (Pots 'n Caps matter to pickup type so match the style like 250k/500k pot selection)

    Stronger/weaker magnet tests can be conducted by just raising/lowering your pickups.

    This is a good video showing pickup height settings. Hendrix had a good idea of the best tones...


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  17. Blackmore Fan

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    Wow, well said! That should be stickied at the top of the forum.
     
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    I think there’s something to the magnet aspect. I bought a Strat with those v mod pick ups, and those are game changers.
     
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    It's not worst than the pedals hole.....