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  1. joelc73

    joelc73 Strat-Talk Member

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    I’ve had Dunlop’s on guitars for 20 years and never had a problem — Except for one gig where I forgot my strap with the male end.

    Try the Bona locks. They’re cheap and will do the job.
     
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    ThebiggestJerk Strat-Talker

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    those rubber gaskets are junk and don’t stay on.
    Go for steel.
     
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  3. TVvoodoo

    TVvoodoo Strat-Talker Vendor Member

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    I know lots of fellow swear by the beer gaskets. But be forewarned, because I hear ALL the strap stories, and converse with
    a number of luthiers and working guitar techs fairly regular.

    If you have a cheaper skinny ended strap like on most off the rack straps, probably beer gaskets will work ok. BUT, that's not a strap end i trust too far.
    If you have a strap with any kind of substantial leather ends, like 3/16" thick or more, a rubber gasket may actually do you more harm than good.

    If too tight, they can bind against the button, and the slow rocking motion of playing and tight rubber against metal will actually grip that
    button, and can often slowly jack the screw loose, or worse. You do not want loose button screws. I have also seen these gaskets actually
    pop right off, right in front of my eyes on the bench without even touching the guitar; many is the time users of these have looked down and
    spied a washer just laying there on the stage. So be wary. They are an economical and convenient solution, but in my opinion not always the best.

    We've all seen the parade of pics of big pros using them, but those artists also have dedicated guitar wingmen working behind the scenes checking they's gear faithfully every night. going over screws, controls, etc. I doubt the average Strat-talker has that luxury.

    The buttons I designed have nearly twice the shaft room, so even a thick strap will still accept a rubber washer, but really with the big button head,
    it's totally redundant. Even more important in this chain is the screw that comes with stock buttons and most locking gadgets - - laughably feeble.
    There is one brand that even sends proprietary screws even a tad smaller than stock buttons, so consider what they know about your guitar before
    making your decision on guitar security.
     
  4. tele_pathic

    tele_pathic Strat-Talk Member

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    I love my Schaller S-2 locks. Yes, they might rattle and shift and such, but I still like them.
     
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    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    There’s at least three, if not four different Dunlop designs. Dunlop Dual Design buttons are my fav. although my #1 has Dunlop “Original” Straplok buttons.
     
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    Wrighty Most Honored Senior Member

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    I can see that, no side effects.
     
  7. EAllen

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    The Schallers, which are heavier than the cheap button type, weigh 3.6 ounces.

    What kind of locks did you have that made metal to metal noise? All the quality ones I have installed make no discernible noise that I have heard. The Schaller S locks are specifically designed to be totally noiseless.

    Eric
     
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  8. StratPlus97

    StratPlus97 Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Strap locks work really well, but like most things, they need to be maintained(cleaned, oiled and tightened) or else they will fail. A lot of people think they can set and forget, and nothing will go wrong....wrong!


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    That's heavier than what I thought they would be. I have used that type and a Dunlop type. Both made some metal-on-metal noise. But it was at least a decade and a half ago. They may be making them with tighter tolerances now. Still not something that I am interested in though, but if they work for, great!
     
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  12. sam_in_cali

    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Quick update, those vintage forge strap buttons arrived today and I think they are exactly what I needed. Thanks :thumb:
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    Believer7713 The Modern Day Frankenstein Strat-Talk Supporter

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    What do you plan to do with the Schaller buttons?

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  14. sam_in_cali

    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    threw them in my parts bin, they are yours if you want them.
     
  15. Blkjakk

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    keep your original strap buttons & buy a Lock It Strap. You can use them on any guitar and never worry about failure.
    https://www.lockitstraps.com/
     
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    20 years on many guitars with Schallers, never needed to clean or oil, just maybe tighten the nut on the strap.
     
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    Sorry, I like my leather straps 20191026_033312.jpg 20191026_033422.jpg
     
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    Cool


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