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Strat buzzing after setup plz help ((video))

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  1. kurt91

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    Hi guys I need some help with a buzzing strat I've spent that much money trying to get this issue sorted out, it's been setup by 2 different luthier and I'm still left with the same issue..

     
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    Nut slot cut too low.
    Saddle not high enough.
    A combo of the 2.

    They’d be my guesses based off that vid assuming the frets are all level and neck is straight (as the luthier says).
     
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    The nut slot has no effect when you're fretting a string half way up the fretboard. I would slacken the truss rod 1/8 turn and see what happens.
     
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    Ok I'll loosen the truss rod.. Thanks.
     
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    Luthier did tell me the truss rod only effects from 3rd fret to about 12th?
     
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    If you fret the first and last frets at the same time and pick the string between the frets, can the string still ring out?

    It seemed like you fretted the first fret as you measured the action at the 12th? That's not how it's usually done, it doesn't really matter as long as you do it the same way every time but usually the action is measured without fretting anything.
     
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    The same "luthier" that sent your guitar back with that buzz? :D The truss rod does effect the middle of the neck more than the ends. Getting rid of the buzz means giving the strings room to vibrate properly. You will have to experiment a little with the relief and the saddle heights, making one adjustment at a time (and keeping a note of them so that you can backtrack if required).
     
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    Yes that's about right. It's all connected though, neck relief, saddle heights etc.
     
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    One thing occured to me. Make sure the neck isn't screwed on too tightly. If you look along the neck and see a hump around the 15th fret, loosen the neck screws a tiny bit.
     
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    Makes sense!
     
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    In 50 years, I've never come across that one. The body joint is at the 16th fret and the truss rod anchor at the 17th. You're not strong enough to deform the neck with just those four screws.
     
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    Am too! When it comes to screwing I'm at the top of my game.

    I have done it though but maybe it's a 3-bolt micro tilt thing? The bolts pulling the neck down too hard while the micto tilt pushes back up between them.

    Que Deathtrap jokes!
     
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    1.6mm on the low E sounds too low.
    Recommendation is, I believe, 5/64" or 2mm. Mine are comfortable and playable at about 3mm

    EDIT: I was eye-balling and apparently poorly. It's at 2.1mm
     
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    You Vikings scare me...


    He's measuring at the 12th fret, Fender recommendations are for the 17th. 3mm is positively from the 1970s.
     
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    3mm!? Are you parking your truck under the strings
     
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    It's a mid-size.
     
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    My low E is 2mm off the 21st fret. :confused:
     
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    Now I have to go measure mine...
     
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    I was eye-balling... poorly apparently. It's ~2.1 at the 17th... still high, but works for me.
     
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    At the last fret which is 21 or 22, mine are all between 1.8 and 2.6. The lowest one is the SG, the rest are between 2.4 and 2.6.
     
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