String trees

Pandamasque

Senior Stratmaster
Sep 22, 2020
1,357
Kyiv, Ukraine
There won’t be enough down pull on the high E and B which means the Notes won’t be clear and will sound dead or muffled, and when you bend the string will pop out of the nut slot.
Except none of this happens on my 3 Fenders, 2 of them with vintage-style non-staggered tuners wound downwards, but only 2-3 winds.
 

joebtone

Senior Stratmaster
Silver Member
Jan 26, 2022
1,906
Northwest US
I was pleasantly surprised that on this one, it’s just great without any tree.
Fender locking tuners staggered.
Roasted maple with a 12 radius and a Graphtech nut.
I don’t finish the top of the nut off as low as some people like to do but...I do know that I have the string slots filed right size and height.
And this nut....Not much filing to get it right.
I love Graphtech.
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joebtone

Senior Stratmaster
Silver Member
Jan 26, 2022
1,906
Northwest US
Yes and nothing of consequence.

Remove the tree and play. If everything is to your liking, you're all done.
If it's not to your liking, put tree back on.
It’s just like shielding then.
Use it, or maybe not...don’t or maybe do...period.
I should just go and practice my playing now...👍
 

rocknrollrich

Most Honored Senior Member
Jan 8, 2016
7,091
philadelphia
It’s just like shielding then.
Use it, or maybe not...don’t or maybe do...period.
I should just go and practice my playing now...👍
Shielding requires a certain level of commitment, time and skill.
A string tree is one screw. You wouldn't even need to change your strings to try it either way.
And practicing your guitar is never bad advice.
 

Guy Incognito

Senior Stratmaster
May 14, 2019
4,624
Here and now
Can regular tuners,non staggered be used on a Stratocaster without string trees, and what would happen if you did?
Here's a few pics for reference.
Staggered, no tree
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Non staggered, no tree
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Non staggered, with trees
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All 3 necks are Hwy 1 necks. All 3 have the same strings and set up.

The one with the trees has the nicest bending action.

With the non staggered, no trees the high E and B strings weren't long enough to get lower on the post with the strings going through the body.
 

charlie chitlin

Senior Stratmaster
Silver Member
Feb 17, 2007
1,231
The Berkshires
Absolutely.
If you learn to eyeball how much string to leave so it winds right to the bottom of the post.
If you hear sympathetic vibrations behind the nut, you're not playing loud enough.
 

fos1

Senior Stratmaster
Silver Member
Nov 7, 2018
2,293
Texas
Every time I scroll past this thread title, I think there are trees that grow strings....

I'm over 70, my mind is funky some times. :(
 

joebtone

Senior Stratmaster
Silver Member
Jan 26, 2022
1,906
Northwest US
Shielding requires a certain level of commitment, time and skill.
A string tree is one screw. You wouldn't even need to change your strings to try it either way.
And practicing your guitar is never bad advice.
We will just have to agree to agree.
I don’t find shielding any more challenging than installing a string tree though.
I don’t spend too much time making it look very neat.
On the other hand, an unmarked spot under the strings...I probably spend 20 minutes making sure I marking the right spot to drill.
It would drive me crazy to have it wrong.
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Oldiemurphy

Strat-O-Master
Jan 23, 2022
638
Austin, TX
I pulled the second tree off my '74 Strat long, long ago. I never noticed a difference and don't have the original any more. But I've decided to replace it just because I'm slowly returning the guitar to quasi-stock (SSS, etc). 20220524_191417.jpg
 


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