Sustain block replacement

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Roca81, Jun 6, 2021 at 8:44 PM.

  1. Roca81

    Roca81 Strat-Talker

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    I have a 2000 American Standard Natural ash. Just curious about what I should look for about a better block. Right now the trem is floating but I think I will go back to decked.
     
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    dirocyn Senior Stratmaster

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    Is there anything wrong with the one you've got? I know there's one that fits in with less slop and play between the bar and block. Wilkinson, maybe?

    Tone and sustain differences are underwhelming, in my experience. About the same as changing the strings.
     
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    rockon1 Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    I think the one thats in it is as good as it gets. Save your money for something else you might need. Just my opinion.
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    Going back to decked will couple the bridge plate to the body essentially removing the block from the equation. I believe an Am Std already has a steel block IIRC.
     
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    Have often wondered what those CNC'd blocks of unobtanium did for tone.

    On occasion have been known to contemplate installation of such, but never compelled enough to actually do it.

    Would be interesting to hear observation of others experiences.
     
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    knh555 Most Honored Senior Member

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    It’s interesting that you call it a sustain block. I’ve never thought of it as such, the name implying it’s primary purpose.

    I wouldn’t change it. YMMV.
     
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    Decked is ok but floating is the correct way.
     
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    It is floated but I like it better decked.
     
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    Baelzebub Most Honored Senior Member

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    I'd be interested in that, and in what people think of brass blocks, as well.
     
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    There's a guy in the UK called Kev Hurley who makes great stainless steel blocks with matching arm.
     
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    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985

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    The AM Standards already use a steel block. I don't think you're going to get one that's any better.
     
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    Andrew Wasson Senior Stratmaster

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    Am Standard has a steel block as mentioned and that bridge is pretty decent. You might look at Callaham. Here's a link to their American Standard upgrades page: https://www.callahamguitars.com/strat_amstd_catalog.htm

    Last week, I replaced the Classic Player 60's bridge which is really similar to the Am Standard bridge with a Wilkinson WVS50 iiMK. I like it better than I thought I would. It might be confirmation bias kicking in but I don't think so.

    I've got it set up floating (parallel floating) with about the same action and I'm using the OEM Fender springs. It improved what I thought was already a pretty good guitar. The guitar already had a killer acoustic resonance and it's still all there and then some. Somehow it's easier to play fast technical lead stuff and chords ring and sustain.
     
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    You dont have a squier bullet or a noname chinese copy with a flimsy zinc block...if you did and your guitar specifically suffered in the sustain department a brass or steel block would be a nice upgrade.You have an american standard though so you dont need an upgrade.
     
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    velvet_man Senior Stratmaster

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    I had the stock block in my MIJ Strat for years and thought about doing an "upgrade" to a solid rolled steel block after a lot of reading on the forums. Then I broke off the trem arm in my original block and figured why not. It was very underwhelming. I didn't notice any change at all and now I just find myself thinking about drilling out the broken bit of trem arm and returning my guitar to stock.
     
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    Yeah, like pedals! ;)
     
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    There is one made of bell brass I use and it comes from F.U. tone

    https://www.fu-tone.com/
     
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    I can't see where it does any good beyond whats already in there. I mean, the only part of the string in contact with the block is the ball, and that ball is one of two points where the string is pulled the tightest thus making vibration 0 or very close to 0.......so what is being transferred to the block? Now here comes the true believers that'll say "its a sustain block, why call it that if it does nothing" or "well I think it works because XXXX". My replys are "well, since 1954 the vibrato mounted on the guitar has been incorrectly referred to as a tremolo...so...." and "I'm glad you feel that way, its your guitar and your money, you do what you want".

    So...in the end you have to be happy, not me. I personally think its a waste of money.
     
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    I bought one made of bell brass from
    https://www.fu-tone.com/
    it doesn’t so much “change” the tone but it sustains longer, which is kind of cool to hit the G string up in the sweet spots and just hold it there. With volume and some over drive the tone developes into cool overtones that just hang there.
     
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