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Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by PicknGrin86, Nov 2, 2011.
is this truly inferior. want to hear opinions that aren't hunches
No, it's not inferior.
To sum it up:
Some people believe that the absence of a lot of that wood leaves less wood to resonate. Others believe it doesn't really make a significant difference.
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The didn't make the American standard and strat plus with a swimming pool route for over a decade because it sucked
There have been plenty of nice guitars with the swimming pool route. I don't prefer it, but it's not a deal breaker.
EDIT: Lendryesky summed it up best. There will be a million different answers, and this thread will probably lead to someone being suspended, but the answer is as simple as that.
I read in a Fender Frontline magazine in early 2000 that they went back to a H-S-H routing configuration, because more wood=more resonance.
Whether or not it is really true is beyond the ability of mankind to really know for sure. Guitar players don't have access to the kind of equipment needed to measure the resonance of a guitar body, and those that do have access to that kind of equipment aren't concerned with guitars.
Ya and the people who are really concerned with that should really be playing a Les Paul. Because there is a ton of routing even in the least routed tremolo strat.
To paraphrase Ron Kirn: "it matters if you think it does..."
Hahah you got a point. I think it's good cause if you want 'buckers in your strat it's easy.
The blacktop's are routed out to the max !
I have guitars with the swimming pool and guitars with H/S/S routing and the only difference that I hear is when I'm playing acoustically. The swimming pool strat seems to be a tad bit louder and cleaner sans an amplifier.
I have both, and to be honest, I can't tell any difference at all.
well I've only had one strat and it's an 87 plus. although it's always sounded great... having not had any other I wondered if I was missing out on something. but honestly my strat sounds so good that I shouldn't be worried. just wanted to ask
It's right up there with special relativity and quantum mechanics.
The kind of people who worry about the "sound" of the routing also prefer batteries with logos consisting of all capital letters, oriented in landscape view and manufactured on alternating Thursdays buy a guy named Tam.
Yeah, it´s louder acoustically and you can hide things if you have to. It will be quieter than. It is great for practising without an amp but there are guitars out there not having swimming pool routing that are exactly as loud as a guitar with a swimming pool routing so I don´t know if it is really something to speak about.
If you want your guitar being louder acoustically give it a swimming pool routing though.
All the best,
There was an Ibanez guitar done that way, the Allan Holdworth model I think, with the swimming pool. From what I read he preferred that.
As far as getting something with some loudness for practice... you might go with a semi hollow guitar like I just did !! Ibanez AS73
I have both and cannot tell the difference.
The slogan at the time was "more wood = more tone."
Fender changed to the H-S-H routing because people *****ed. It was "too different" from the way it used to be done. The retention of wood from an H-S-H route to the universal is just the bumps on the sides - not much at all....more is kept in a S-S-S, but whatever.
People started taking apart their Strats and were "shocked" to see a big cavity in there.
The spin at the time was that the universal route gives a more hollow, phasey tone....as popularized by Andy Summers. Also, they veneered the bodies supposedly to counteract finish sink. People then interpreted this as the glue of the veneer "dampening" tone and preventing resonance.
Remember, this is the mid-late 90s and the internet was taking hold.
it's all in your perspective….
ya know the difference in a swimming pool rout and a chambered body? . . . Ummmm nuthin' but promotion…
Two guitars identical in looks will sound slightly different to each other, the only thing to consider is which one sounds better to you. Swimming pool route or not shouldn't effect your choice of guitar just like what it says on the headstock.