The forging of the British New Wave of Heavy Metal.

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  1. Middle Earth

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    Wait. I think there were five guys, who called themselves The New York Dolls, that did this sort of trick. And unlike MM, they were really talented.
     
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    Their Spellbound album is pretty neat.
     
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    Yeah, it's a shame the Tygers never really made it into the big time.
     
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    On a somewhat related note, what killed heavy metal for a lot of us traditionalists was the advent of all those over-polished LA hair bands. Kind of like 90s boy bands with longer hair and guitars.

    Asbestos (flame proof) underwear going on now...
     
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    Overpolished, and kind of uniform sounding (and uniform looking). Thank goodness there was Thrash Metal. In the UK, everyone from the scene (Leppard, Maiden, Saxon) and the veterans beforte them (Priest, Motorhead) had their own sound.
     
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    Not exactly sure why but back in the day Saxon resonated more with me than Leppard or Maiden. High n dry is my favourite Leppard album and for Maiden it would be killers.

    For some unexplained reason I also liked Twisted Sister, obviously not UK I know, and my all time favourite band at the time was ACCEPT. Trust the germans to do it better :)
     
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    I never got into thrash or any of the other newer genres myself.
     
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    Twistedn Sister began their recording career in the UK because there was a market for their music there. And Accept's Restless and Wild is a classic, hands down.
     
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    That's were Metal began to lose a great deal of its connection to blues. Not everyone's cup of tea for sure.
     
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    Venom is still considered as a joke albeit that they had an influence on later bands. Going back to the original post, Priest is not NWOBHM but more an influence/inspiration (just like Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, and many more) for NWOBHM.

    NWOBHM is just a label that that describes a number of bands that rose to the surface after the punk era. Judas Priest is not in that category and actually not more or less influential than Black Sabbath/Deep Purple/Led Zeppelin/Hawkwind.

    That beeing said, who cares about a label? Lemmy Kilmister said always: "we just play rock 'n' roll". And he was right!

    Saxon, as one of the prominent NWOBHM bands, vindicated Lemmy's words quite recently.



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    First headliners I ever saw at Hammersmith Odeon, Twisted Sister and Accept. I remember that Dee Snider says that the UK was a better market for them than the US.
     
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    Nice!
     
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    Agree. It's only rock and roll. I better leave the labels to journalists. Motorhead were pretty much themselves. They appealed to both Punks and Metalheads. And they were big fans of the Ramones.
     
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    As far as TS, I think Under the Blade is a seminal album, the second one is decent, then I kind of parted ways with them musically. I did see the Stay Hungry tour, solid performance .
    I discovered Saxons Denim and Leather first and it became a big influence for me.
    I got a chance to see Saxon with Steeler opening in a very small venue, maybe 200 people in Germany in 1988. I wish I could remember the name of the town.
    I am still in contact with one of my buddies from back then, I think he remembers
     
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    I bet those were good times for you.
     
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    Although from that era Iron Maiden is my favourite band, I always will try to see Saxon live.

    The last time I saw Saxon was in March 2020 (Doornroosje 05-03-2020) with Diamond Head as support act! I was really impressed how well that band aged. Biff was still capable of reaching the notes and the whole band was tight as ever. Forty freaking years later Saxon seems to have stated their second youth .... I highly recommend to see the boys live if you have a chance.




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    Paul Quinn is my favorite NWOBHM guitarist. Cheers.
     
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    Mine is Dave Murray but I understand why Paul Quinn is loved by many.

    From a distance the other guitarist (Doug Scarratt) looks remotely like Dave Murray :confused:

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    And Biff Byford's voice simply doesn't age, at all. BW.
     
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    ACCEPT WAS AWESOME!!!
     
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