The one must have SSS pickup set?

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  1. coolidge

    coolidge Strat-Talk Member

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    I have two identical strats both with Samarium Cobalt Noisless pickups. I want to leave one stock and put something different in the 2nd guitar, better for clean or better for dirt I could go either way.

    Cost really isn't an issue, suggestions?
     
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    Great post! I'm in the exact situation and can't wait to hear the feedback to this question.
     
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    Antstrat Most Honored Senior Member

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    CS 69’s will be different and sound good too.
     
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    I am in the same boat. I would suggest using the noiseless models for dirt tones and find something for clean. Area 58/58/61b are good for dirty tone but you have that covered
     
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    CGHguitars Strat-O-Master Gold Supporting Member

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    Must have? My opinion only, but Lollar Blondes, Lollar Blackface, or Klein ‘59’s.
     
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    Pairing with a Dumble #183 clone if that helps.
     
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    I'm in the Lollar camp too

    or

    check in with @Bodean, he can get you where you want to go
     
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    Seymour Duncans are my choice. They have all kinds of sound samples on their site. I'm annoyingly somewhat conservative, in that I've used their SSL-1s and 5s for 38 years. I'm sure you'll get more knowledgable opinions as we go.
     
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    For a great vintage sound (much better than CS69s IMHO) I suggest Wilkinson WVS. They happen to be dirt cheap too. Better than anything I've tried (and I've tried a LOT).

    You don't need to pay huge amounts for good pickups these days.
     
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    Forgot about Kinman. They have a load of sample sounds as well.
     
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    Lollar Dirty Blackface or Rocketfire Total 60s
     
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    I'm going down the cheaper Chinese made Tonerider route. They are good and cost less than half what Seymour offer.

    They aren't exporting outside UK at the moment.
     
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    Seymour Duncan APS1 neck and middle and a Twang Banger in the bridge. On a budget this is about as good as you can get to that Buddy Holly era sound in a Strat. I did it a while back and that was the best sounding Strat I've ever heard.

    BUT. Bit more money and .... recently I've put a Lollar Royal T in that guitar in the avatar - replaced a Nocaster - and it's got a killer Strat/Tele neck tone - I'm impressed. So, I'd nowadays I'd recommend the Lollar Blonde - Alnico 2, scatter winding, low impedance around 6 ohms.
     
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    The Blondes and Blackface have fundamental differences - the Blackfaces are degaussed Alnico 5 and the Blondes are Alnico 2. I found the 2s had more range than 5s. But I'm not an aggressive player so depends what you want to play - but they are different.
     
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    they definitely are. I have had several sets of both, and still go back and forth as to my favorite. Really depends on the amp you’re using, and playing style.
    Both are superb.
     
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    Most pickups can go the clean path, and you'll get a lot of specific pickup suggestions, so I'll add some other things to consider:

    Lower pickups will give better cleans. Yes, you need to turn up the amp volume.
    You can also tip the pickups for more bass/thickness and less treble.

    Evaluate different volume pot measured actual kohms, and caps -- they push the tone around as much as the pickup swaps do for 1/10th the price and even when dimed.

    Armstrong Blender on the SSS you are keeping. Converts the second tone knob to a Blender so you can have the classic SSS tones or blend into full hot HSH Super Strat/LP range. Like having a "Super Tone" knob.

    Get a reverse/Hendrix bridge pickguard pickup slot. Gives more mid-range to bass strings and more bass to the treble strings.

    Move the Strat volume knob back to the first tone pot hole (and use a stacked master tone+Blender knob) so you can pick from saddles to neck like a Tele or like Hendrix and get 'all the tones'.

    A different mod is to swap neck/middle or middle/bridge on SSS either physically or at the switch lugs and get a Tele 3-way including neck+bridge plus the Strat middle pickup switch options at the end. You give up one of the Strat Quack switch positions doing this.

    If modding a current Strat ... lift off the old pickups+wiring harness complete and store and build up a new complete harness+pickups for your new direction. Eventually you may either miss the original tones or want to sell the guitar and then it's easy to plug and play.

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