"THE" Strat sound versus "THE" Tele sound.

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Digiplay, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. StratoMutt

    StratoMutt Senior Stratmaster

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    The Strat 5 way switch allows for more sounds and may be more versatile because of that. Keep in mind the 5-way got its start in the early - mid 70s.

    The original 3-way to 3-way comparison-wise? Then again maybe not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It is mostly up to the player.
     
  2. soulman969

    soulman969 Senior Stratmaster

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    IMHO it's the other way around. A Nashville Style Tele with a nice clear bell like neck pickup and a good middle pickup can do a reasonable imitation of a Strat.

    What the typical Strat can't do is replicate a Tele bridge pickup and bridge and without being rewired won't give you the neck and bridge pickups in combination.

    This a my take on it.
     
  3. StratoMutt

    StratoMutt Senior Stratmaster

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    Perhaps.

    Try this thread on the Tele forum and see what happens...
     
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  4. StratoMutt

    StratoMutt Senior Stratmaster

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    Blender pot in a Strat. Simple. :)
     
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    Antstrat Most Honored Senior Member

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    That’s a really good question. I think, just my opinion, that an experienced guitarist has the skill to think outside the box. Knowing how to eq your amp is part of the equation too.
     
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  6. Mr. Lumbergh

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    Or a "Gilmour switch." It'll get you closer but I still don't think a Strat bridge pickup can compete with a Tele bridge pickup; it just has a different sound.
    As soon as you put drive on it though, these kinds of comparisons sort of fly out the window. It's a lot harder to pick apart the differences then.
     
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  7. DeMelo

    DeMelo Senior Stratmaster

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    Funny, my experience tells me otherwise.
    The blender is nice and versatile but the ones I’ve tried didn’t really sound like a tele.
    And the plate seems to be overrated tonewise. The strat’s middle pup covers a lot of ground even though it doesn’t fake it 100%.
    YMMV
     
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  8. soulman969

    soulman969 Senior Stratmaster

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    Still have to wire that in too, right? :)

    My only point was without some modification a standard Strat lacks the neck/bridge setting of a Tele.
     
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  9. Digiplay

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    You've heard the old saying that sometimes a person won't believe their own eyes, but in this case swap the word eyes with ears :)

    ALL I have ever really owned for the last year and a half (even though for some reason I don't count 2020 as a "real" year :) ) were Telecasters, but I just HAD to own a Strat, so I just bought a 2016 American Elite Stratocaster.


    So this afternoon, on the same song, I recorded separate tracks of, bridge pickup only (all guitars having an Ash body, btw):
    1) A Nash TC-63.
    2) An AVRI '52.
    3) A Road Worn 50's Tele.
    4) An American Original '60s Tele.
    5) An American Elite Strat.


    Surprisingly, and depending on how close I played to the Trem arm, and what pick technique I used, the Strat gave the Teles a dead heat run as far as twang/overall sound, at least as far as the bridge pu sound.


    And I even had to back off the treble tone on the Strat down to about 8 1/2 :)
     
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  10. StratoMutt

    StratoMutt Senior Stratmaster

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    Exactly. There are many studio examples of a guitar sounding different from its perceived expectation, especially from that era. So many variables.
     
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  11. soulman969

    soulman969 Senior Stratmaster

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    Switch = modification which is what I meant. An unmodified Strat isn't wired for a neck/bridge combination.

    And I agree. IMHO there is no real replacement for a Tele bridge and bridge pickup that sounds quite the same.
     
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  12. StratoMutt

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    Ahyup, I got that. :)

    Is easy really.
     
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    Yes they can sound like each other
     
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  14. StratoMutt

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    Standard single coil Strat bridge pickups can be ice-picky. The first set I had in my Strat was just that - SD SSL-1.
     
  15. Digiplay

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    Hi albala!

    Sounds like I need to move to Hilton Head :)
     
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    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985

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    Yes.
     
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  17. StratoMutt

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    That Tele plate magic.

    I will admit to not knowing the differences in how they (Tele / Strat) are wound as well.
     
  18. soulman969

    soulman969 Senior Stratmaster

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    Yup, just a matter of opinion and I've had or have all three.

    Vintage 3 saddle bridge Teles, Nashville Tele w/6 saddle bridge, Strat which actually has been rewired for a neck/bridge combo.

    IMHO it's the basic design of a Tele bridge pickup and base plate plus it's mounting to the bridge itself that makes it nearly impossible to duplicate in any other guitar.

    The output of most Tele bridge pickups is also greater than most Strat bridge pickups.
     
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    Pros and cons of a Blender pot versus a Gilmour switch?

    And where's a good place to buy them?
     
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    Strat 5-way quack positions 2 & 4 seem unlikely on a Tele. Am I wrong?