To Pedal or not to Pedal?

Discussion in 'The Effect effect' started by Esg877, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. dirocyn

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    "I hate misquoters." --Hamlet.

    We are in a golden age of guitar, and there is a wonderous bounty of guitar pedals. And digital multi-effects. If you're paying attention you will hear differences--but which do you prefer?

    Whether you use them or not, every electric guitar player should have a passing understanding of overdrive, fuzz, delay, reverb, and wah. 5 categories. Sure there's other stuff, much of it is useful for one particular genre--lots of chicken pickin uses compression, and chorus was big in 80s pop. Stick with the 5, unless genre drives you to another.

    So, individual pedals vs a digital multi-FX.

    Multi-FX means it has a bunch of stuff in one pedal. Very likely it can handle the 5 basic categories and has 100 more presets that sound like garbage. If it's programable, there may be different voicings that are supposed to sound like particular other pedals. Sometimes those will (the delay in multi-FX is probably just as good as any normal digital delay) and sometimes it won't. If your multi-unit lacks an effect you want (or does it badly) you'll still need to replace the whole digital unit or run the digital unit next to one or two pedals. A multi-FX unit with an "expression pedal" (you'll need that if you want to use wah) starts around $100. The first "best of for 2021" list I found online has a range from $149 to $1600. Some of them look like they're probably pretty user friendly, others look like they require navigating a bunch of menus to change a parameter here or there. Ease of use is important, maybe more important than what the particular built in effects sound like..

    Going with individual pedals--you can pick which ones you want, replacing one doesn't mean you have to replace anything else. Want a silicon fuzz instead of germanium? Swap one pedal. Or just stick 'em both on the board. Individual pedals start at around $20. Any pedal that's been around for 20 years will have its patents expired; if a pedal costs more than $200 someone probably makes a clone for $50. The same circuit sounds the same. There are no magic resistors or capacitors, and you can't hear what the painting on the box looks like. If you're buying clones and inexpensive pedals, you're looking at $100-$250 for 5 pedals. But don't forget you'll also need a power supply and a handful of patch cables.

    So far I've gone with individual pedals. But then, I already own a few. At this point it's easier to add one here or there than to try to replace the ones I have with a digital unit.
     
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    Thank the Gods, this fine delight
    Finds me awake!
    From such bardo one could expect
    Nothing, but the "Frosting" on the cake!

    Still...

    Out beyond ideas of analog
    and digital there is a field.
    The Signal will meet you there.
     
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    ...

    PEDAL Fear me not, Modeler.
    MODELER No, Pedal; I fear thee! I fear thee deeply!
    PEDAL Posh! Let us take the law of our side.
    MODELER I will frown as I pass by, and let them take it as they will.
    PEDAL Nay, as they dare! I will bite my thumb at them; which is a disgrace to them, if they bear it.
    TUBE AMP Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
    PEDAL I do bite my thumb, sir.
    TUBE AMP Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
    PEDAL [Aside to MODELER] Is the law of our side, if I say ay?
    MODELER No.
    PEDAL No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you, sir, but I bite my thumb, sir!

    ...
     
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    Language is the expression of Spirit
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    For greater lengths your spirit will unfold;
    You'll gladly come this Sunday, and every Sunday hereafter!
    But by music you'll find your Soul...
     
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    Huh?
     
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    I was taught decades ago by one much more learned than I that the pedal we call distortion, of which there were few then, was for those who played at guitar, yet could not hit the proper notes or chords and wished to veil their lack of skill with the noise we now call distortion.
     
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    You're supposed to warn people before ya say something like that.
    We need time to make popcorn
     
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    The tone of your post suggests you may need a TS-9.
    Well done!
     
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    I think they got pie in the would you take advantage thread
     
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    It's the one I still keep...
     
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    You are such a drama queen... I like that!
     
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    It's like when you eat pie and popcorn together.
    And then you run out of poems. o_O

    I'm gonna play my nylon acoustic now... and for the foreseeable future... :whistling:
     
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    More like a drama joker who hates Mondays and likes poetry. Sorry to let you down.

    Well it was fun while it lasted but it's Tuesday now, and I guess this drama has run its course. Let's call it even, shall we? I won't get rid of ALL my pedals and we all know you guys have a multi-effects unit hidden somewhere in the closet.

    Next Monday: "To Tube or not to Tube". Stay tuned! (or stay tubed? :thumbd:).


    ...Ohhhh I'm psyched already!
     
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    I had mine for 20 years until I learned how to use it.
    Your piece is excellent.
     
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    'Get thee to a guitar center.'
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    'What's in a name? A Marshall by any other name would sound as sweet.‘

    (Romeo and Juliet, Act 2, Scene 2)

    ‘There are more guitar pedals in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.’
    (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5)

    ‘Frailty, thy name is Behringer.’
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