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Discussion in 'Guitar Owners Clubs' started by felis, May 9, 2014.

  1. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

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    Forgot to mention, mine is an 8 hole (maple neck '54-'57?).
     
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    I had one of those on it too, until I bought the parchment!

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    Finally decided to change the 1Meg pots in my Breezy, and ordered some Alpha(250K audio/linear) pots, and a few different value capacitors.
    Now, waiting to hear how it turns out. :)
     
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    Used to have one of these.

    Hell of a good bass, wish I hadn't sold it to buy the Chinese Rick bass I have now.
     

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    felis Senior Stratmaster

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    Wow, that's only the second LS bass I've seen. 8)
     
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    felis Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm not saying it's a bad one, but I think it's a lower end model (SS38, tuners with chrome covers).
     
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    Thanks guys is there a guide somewhere to the differences between the models - SS38, SS48 etc?
     
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    I agree it's an SS38 - the base model. I don't know of a guide that explains Silver Stars, though it would be useful. The problem is that they were only ever intended for the Japanese market, so all the catalogues are in Japanese. We had good Goldstar distribution in the UK, so we got catalogues in English, but not the SSs. You can seek out old Tokai catalogues on the interweb, but they're of limited use unless you're fluent in Japanese.

    The problem is that the vast majority of SSs seem to be the base models. As far as I can tell, SS36, SS38 & SS40 are basically the same - the budget model. The model number got higher as the price increased with inflation from 1979 to 1983(ish). The only thing wrong with the base models is the trap tuners - they seem to have all got alnico pickups even though the base Springys & Goldstars had ceramics. I've never understood why that is. The base SSs probably had more parts making up the body - maybe 4 pieces rather than 3? Not that that really matters.

    So anything higher than SS40 should have decent tuners. You don't seem to see the higher models outside of Japan - I bought my SS60 directly from Japan a few years ago. The neck is a little fatter than a 36/38/40, & it has tuners like this, which work well.

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    For some reason, it also has a bridge with brass saddles.

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    An SS80 is (I think) the top of the range & it should have a nitro finish. I don't think I've ever seen an SS80. I believe that there was also an SS48 but I don't know what was different about that.

    So, if you can live with the trap tuners, or if you're prepared to replace them, one of the base models should be just fine. If you see one without traps, it's either a higher model or they have been changed.

    Hope that helps.
     
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    Could you post some pics of the tuners & bridge please? I assume it has the 48 sticker on the back of the neck?
     
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    Brilliant thanks. How about dating it? the serial number is 2021799.
     
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    1982, I believe. The first digit tells you the year. I know that seems a bit too straightforward for Tokai, but it seems to work. Since they were only made from '79 to '83 (give or take a year) the serial numbers seem to be quite simple & logical. 1982 seems to have been the peak year for SS production - I've seen more with serial numbers beginning with 2 than any other number.
     
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    A small thank you to stratman323, you got me thinking about changing the 1Meg pots.

    Just did it, and it's for the better.

    Thanks. ;)
     
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    Good, glad to help. Could you remind me - why did a Breezy have 1 meg pots? That's not typical Tokai.
     
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    Sorry, I don't know.
    Didn't Fender have also 1Meg pots in their Teles at a certain time?
     
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    I think by the late 60s & in the 70s that might have been true. God knows why. :rolleyes:

    I got a MIM Thinline 69 Tele that had 1M pots & I quickly changed them for 250s. Strangely enough, the MIJ Thinline 69s came with 250s. It's hard to see any logic in all this!
     
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    Now that my Breezy is finished off.

    I'm going to try out a set of "red bobbins" in the Goldstar.
     
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    Red bobbins?
     
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    Fender (Fullerton?) '82 red bobbin pickups.
     
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