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Tokai Goldstar Refret

Discussion in 'Non-Fender S-Type Guitar Forum' started by davemoss, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. davemoss

    davemoss Strat-Talker

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    I just took my 80's Tokai Goldstar for a set up. Turns out it needs new frets, as it has already been fret levelled a number of times and now the frets are stupid low (0.5mm). I thought this just how vintage frets were, apparently not.


    So my question is:
    what kind of frets should I get?
    Will a refret reduce the sell on value? (not that I am planning to sell;))

    My choices are the original vintage fret wire
    Or more modern fret wire

    (It is something I didn't consider when buying on old guitar: - pretty much 'add on' £200 quid for fret work; unless your lucky and it has been done prior!)

    I guess I am also wondering if it is worth it? I will have spent over £600!


    Any advice on the above?:)
     
  2. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Vintage, Jescar stainless or Evo-Gold.
     
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  3. usul1978

    usul1978 Guitar bricolo Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I did refret my springy. I used 6105 jescar frets because I prefer that to vintage frets, not stainless to keep the original feel.

    What to advice ? Hard to say, it's like choosing shoes !

    Forget the resale value, they are great guitars because they play great !
     
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  4. davemoss

    davemoss Strat-Talker

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    cheers guys

    do you know what the specs of the original frets were?
     
  5. diogoguitar

    diogoguitar Senior Stratmaster

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    Not sure, but take a look at Warmoth's website. I would pick a shorter fret like the 6230 in stainless steel. I just got a neck with 6105 frets, but my objective was to have a bit more room between the strings and the fretboard.

    https://www.warmoth.com/Guitar/Necks/FretSizePop.aspx

    Item Number Width X Height Description Used By
    SS6230
    .080" X .043" Small vintage Fender Size Vintage Fender® necks
    SS6105 .095" X .047" Narrow and tall Most popular choice
    SS6150 .104" X .047" The standard "jumbo" size Modern Fender American® necks
    SS6115 .108" x .051" "Jumbo" wire with more peak Unique to Warmoth
    SS6100 .118" X .058" A very large wire, almost scalloped feel Common on Ibanez® necks
     
  6. s5tuart

    s5tuart Resource limit reached Strat-Talk Supporter

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    First off I’d take it to another luthier for an opinion.
    If it does need a refret then that is better than trying to keep the original ones for resale sake.
    You dont say how long youve had it but if you keep wearing down the frets, get stainless ones.
     
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    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

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    Whatever size you decide on, make sure they are Stainless.

    They bend smooth as glass, and you will never wear them out in your lifetime.
     
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    Will Lefeurve Senior Stratmaster

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    When the time comes.. and its fast approaching, I'll refret my old Springy Sound with medium jumbo sized frets. Never been a fan of the vintage sizes although I love the guitar..
     
  9. davemoss

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    Cheers for the advise guys.

    I wanted to get your opinion on maybe contacting the original ebay seller....

    the eBay description said - 'loads of life left in the frets' . This is an inaccurate description as the frets (i have been told by 3 different luthiers) have litterally no life left.

    Do you think I am within my rights to ask for some compensation from the seller?? - or god forbid return the guitar? ( I am still covered, under paypals protection policy)

    Not sure if I would have bought the guitar if I'd know it required a re-fret. Anyone got any advice/similar experience? Its a great guitar but with the additional re-fret i'm forking out £600

    Cheers
     
  10. CFFF

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    @davemoss If it was described incorrectly then I think you can demand a partial refund to pay for the refret or a total refund and you return the guitar.
     
  11. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

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    I'd just return the guitar.

    Let the seller learn that if he grossly misrepresents the condition of the fretboard, he will be eating the shipping 2X.
     
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