Tone Concrete!

Discussion in 'Non-Fender S-Type Guitar Forum' started by uncle daddy, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. =KARMA=

    =KARMA= Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    Awesome! :cool:
     
  2. Mr. Lumbergh

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    Dave found one. We have another mention in this thread:
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/what-makes-guitar-tone.314277/
    and this one:
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/...fferent-tone-woods.213858/page-5#post-1358530
    Here's some printed threads:
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/vintage-meets-modern.366187/
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/vintage-meets-modern.366187/
    Cardboard I wasn't able to find so fast but it was posted several times, maybe in some of the above. I do need to get some work done today, so no more searches for now.
     
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    Dreamdancer Senior Stratmaster

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    He is not a luthier he is woodworker...just like countless others that arent even woodworkers and yet can build excellent electric guitars..any random dude can do what he just did...

    Any random dude cant build an acoustic guitar though....let alone a good one...for that you need an actual luthier.
     
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    Cool! Now all I need is a few spare hours....
     
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    StummerJoe Senior Stratmaster

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    Why the quote marks around LUTHIERY?!? It is a skill - a hard earned skill. smh
     
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    StummerJoe Senior Stratmaster

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    I'd like to see any randon dude, like you, design, plan, and build an electric guitar from scratch with no guidance. I mean blocks of wood. Cut, shape route the body. Cut and shape the neck, route the truss rod channel, cut fret slots, inlays, put the fretboard in the correct spot on the neck, radius the neck, fret the neck, etc...and make an excellent guitar.

    I eagerly await your video. ;)
     
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    “A luthier (/ˈluːtiər/ LOO-ti-ər) is a craftsperson who builds and repairs string instruments that have a neck and a sound box. The word "luthier" is originally French and comes from the French word for lute.”

    I think it’s because you don’t need to be a luthier to assemble a Strat.
     
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    Cause for electric guitars it isnt needed...its obvious from that video and countless other examples......basic woodworking is enough.
     
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    Assembly and building are two ENTIRELY different things. And thanks for explaining the word luthier to a Roberto-Venn School of Luthiery graduate.

    Still looking forward to your build - not assembly - video.:thumb:
     
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    You're only right if you are talking about assembling pre fab parts. Building from scratch is a whole different ball game.
     
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    Funny!
     
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    :rolleyes::whistling::thumb:
     
  13. Mr. Lumbergh

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    Well I see thread is going exactly according to prediction, and after only two pages, too...
    This subject always seems to get people fired up on both sides. Battle lines are drawn, friendships end, marriages are broken up, alcoholism trends up. Hence the meme in my first response.
     
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    :rolleyes: Ugh. I'm going to have a beer. ;)
     
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    Iam talking about building from scratch...what is that mystique luthiery part that only the masters can and a random dude cant(again iam not talking about acoustic instruments)?I bet anyone can route a guitar body for example just as well as a master builder....disagree?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Yeah, but the trick was to not put thick lacquer on it, lets the True Tone if the concrete come through.
     
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    Never mind...
     
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    I dont care about worthless beautifications...we are talking meat and potatoes of a build....the best sounding and playable guitar you can ever have in your hands....you mean you need special skills to draw centerlines and follow them(or print a 1:1 schematic of the thing)...and then make the neck and body using powertools and following the measurements to the letter....dude i made set in,neckthrough and bolt on strat builds not knowing a thing prior..most of them while not even having a router available...carved the necks to all of them...using regular rasps and going by either measurements or by feel....its NOT rocket science.

    That is also why all guitar companies try to make tonewood such a big thing...cause they know construction wise pretty much anyone can do it but their last frontier is that they "cant get the best most resonant wood"...cause the construction can be done by anyone willing enough to make it happen.Dont try to make it like there is a violin construction going on....