Tone Concrete!

Discussion in 'Non-Fender S-Type Guitar Forum' started by uncle daddy, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. StummerJoe

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    :rolleyes:Sure buddy, sure. In fact, it IS science.

    You can quit trolling me now. :rolleyes:
     
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    I think you missed the point, he didn’t do all that stuff, he just made a mold for the concrete, and, when he’d got a block the right shape bolted the stuff onto it.
     
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    Ok buddy apparently all those people building excellent guitars from scratch without being luthiers apparently is virtual reality.Go on thinking that john cruz ll build you a better strat body than pretty much anyone with a router.....its not a Stradivarius mate...its a coffee table...the first one requires nuanced things that you need a couple of lifetimes to learn and the other just a blueprint, a router and the willingness to sand...
     
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    It's not just all about making the body.

    Seriously, you can stop the trolling now.
     
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    No, I got the point. I think you missed the point. My response wasn't directed at the video.
     
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    I think we're already past that, we've moved on to a fully-scratch build. What you're talking about is indeed just an assembly.
     
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    Iam not trolling buddy...and those discussions exist cause a lot of people think like i do...why dont you see those discussions about acoustic instruments?Cause there no one disputes the huge amount of knowhow that is required to make an instrument not only great but even playable...for electrics anyone can do it and most of them do.

    Lets see...what does an electric luthier really makes?Basically tuners,bridge,electrics(most of the times pickups too) are all from third party manufacturers..what does he do that is so special? Body and neck....the body is a thick slap of wood routed to specs and the only part that requires detailing is the neck....which is basically good fretwork and a nut...if those things are dialed in the guitar ll play like a dream...if the electronics are from a certain quality and up..and guitar ll sound like a dream too.Thats it.

    The cnc spits 90 percent of the guitar ready anyway(awaiting just some glue ups and crazy amounts of sanding)...proving that no luthiery is involved but woodworking to specs.
     
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    CNC is not hand built. :rolleyes:
     
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    Oops! Sorry
     
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    That seems to be the simple concept that isn't sinking in.
     
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    Yep, just apologized to the OP, wasn’t concentrating!
     
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    Yes but my point is that is not needed to be hand build.Thats why pretty much any guitar out there is cut from the machine and then basically assembled by the "luthier"...
     
  13. Mr. Lumbergh

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    No worries. My comment above isn't aimed at you btw.
     
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    Your point is off target. Assembling pre fab is NOT building a guitar from scratch, as I pointed out long ago.

    I'm done. You're exhausting.
     
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    Building an electric guitar from scratch is simple woodworking...thats my point...and it can be done by hand or by cnc...there is no magic involved cause its a cookie cutter thing.
     
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    I apologize for derailing your thread. I actually like the concrete guitar, but with my back...that's definately a guitar for a younger fella with a good back!
    (Of course they'd have a bad back after one gig)
     
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    No, it is not. Not all guitars are the same or built to the same specs. CNC is prefab and not considered to be by hand or from scratch. I don't know why you can't get that simple concept. Obviously it is a failure on my part to communicate clearly.

    Do I actually have to hit the ignore button for the first time ever?!? Or are you going to stop trolling?!?:rolleyes:FFS
     
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    First of all if you dont want answers..dont reply to my messages..its THAT easy...

    Pretty much anyone can build a guitar at least very close to a custom shop strat

    Very select few can build an acoustic guitar very close to a Martin...

    The reason is for the first woodworking is enough and for the second is just a very small part of the equation...period.
     
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    Getting late here, almost tomorrow, goodnight!
     
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    I only ever asked you ONE question, and then pointed out how you were wrong. You don't know what you are talking about. You have obviously never attempted to build a guitar with an arched top, solid, semi, or hollow body electric. You have obviously never designed an original guitar and brought it into existence - BY HAND from scratch. It takes SKILL and KNOWLEDGE.

    Anybody can build a "chair", but I wouldn't want to sit on a chair built by just "anybody".

    Lastly, I shouldn't have to ask you I don't know how many times to quit trolling me. P-E-R-I-O-D!
     
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