PonyB
Senior Stratmaster
Well, get up and do something.This thread for man in La-Z-Boy yelling at tv.
Well, get up and do something.This thread for man in La-Z-Boy yelling at tv.
Aaaaaand we've reached the point in the discussion where we're discussing the discussion itself and not the content of the original thread/post.I have followed along with this thread since the beginning, and I have come to the conclusion that because nobody can even agree about what "tone" actually is, this is the stupidest argument ever, and a complete waste of time.
Take you off ignore for a moment to reply.
I can play. Can you?
Now back you go, Pony Boy. LoL
Used it damn well, too.Jimi Hendrix, one of the most famous strat players, used huge amounts of distortion
My acoustic guitar doesn't have a tone knob and I'm able to change it's tone with my hands. Those same acoustic tone-shaping techniques work well on a Strat.I can't believe this is being debated on a Stratocaster focused site. The only time your hands have anything to do with tone are when they are on the knob that says "Tone" and turning it.
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And every acoustic guitar sounds just exactly like every other acoustic guitar, right?My acoustic guitar doesn't have a tone knob and I'm able to change it's tone with my hands. Those same acoustic tone-shaping techniques work well on a Strat.
By saying tone is in the fingers, I personally have never said there are no other contributions to tone. I have only said that skilled fingers are the best source for affecting tone and that is the spirit of the statement, "tone is in the fingers". I also am one using the more strict definition of tone that excludes reverb, echo, distortion and other shapers of sound waves as they are "characteristics of sound" to be considered along with, but separate from each other and another "characteristic of sound" known as tone.And every acoustic guitar sounds just exactly like every other acoustic guitar, right?
The other great modifier for acoustic tone is pick choice- material and thickness affect tone greatly IME.My acoustic guitar doesn't have a tone knob and I'm able to change it's tone with my hands. Those same acoustic tone-shaping techniques work well on a Strat.
since tone is in your hands will you sell me your eminence red fangs?I don't know about the rest of you ( and I don't care) but tone is in my hands. The *general character of my "tone" follows me no matter what guitar I play.
*Tone (2) the general character or attitude of a place, piece of writing, situation, etc.
By saying tone is in the fingers, I personally have never said there are no other contributions to tone. I have only said that skilled fingers are the best source for affecting tone and that is the spirit of the statement, "tone is in the fingers". I also am one using the more strict definition of tone that excludes reverb, echo, distortion and other shapers of sound waves as they are "characteristics of sound" to be considered along with, but separate from each other and another "characteristic of sound" known as tone.
Nice try, but check it out yourself. Play close to the bridge with your picking hand. You will acheive a thinner tone featuring treble frequencies. Moving your picking hand closer to the neck will decrease those treble frequencies and approach more lower frequency tones. There is nothing incorrect about describing those hand and finger movements as affecting tone. Regarding other definitions of tone, understand that I previously posted that there can indeed exist other perfectly legitimate definitions of tone just as there exist legitimate geometries defined where parallel lines meet. You are one refusing to accept that skilled finger's and hands can affect tone. Some of us believe that they have the best affect on toneRight. Tone is in the hands, if you are limiting "tone" to one incorrect definition of the word, while trollishly refusing to admit that the correct definitions are correct.
No. I will sell you my Andy Griffith DVD collection so you can watch Goober whenever you want.since tone is in your hands will you sell me your eminence red fangs?![]()
I said it in the first thread and I’ll repeat myself: if you don’t know what “tone is in the fingers” means, then your journey as a guitarist is not complete.
Moses on a crutch! This thread should have breathed its last long hence.
I said it in the first thread and I’ll repeat myself: if you don’t know what “tone is in the fingers” means, then your journey as a guitarist is not complete.
Nice try, but check it out yourself. Play close to the bridge with your picking hand. You will acheive a thinner tone featuring treble frequencies. Moving your picking hand closer to the neck will decrease those treble frequencies and approach more lower frequency tones. There is nothing incorrect about describing those hand and finger movements as affecting tone. Regarding other definitions of tone, understand that I previously posted that there can indeed exist other perfectly legitimate definitions of tone just as there exist legitimate geometries defined where parallel lines meet. You are one refusing to accept that skilled finger's and hands can affect tone. Some of us believe that they have the best affect on tone
The tone is produced by both the technique and the gear. Some kinds of sounds require particular types of gear.Each instrument has its own voice, its own range of sounds that can be produced. And players all have their own target sound they're trying to hit. And no amount of gear can substitute for technique, either.