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Trem arm vs. output jack

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  1. draelyc

    draelyc Strat-Talk Member

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    Hey, y'all ~ I'm new to Stratdom, having just acquired a 2008 American Standard Sienna Sunburst. :) So I'm just starting to explore the tones and possibilities … and also just learning the unique quirks of the instrument. Which brings me to the output jack.

    Now, my other guitars all have output jacks on the bottom edge of the body instead of on the top like a Strat. I've set my Standard up with the bridge floating, and I like the trem arm to be loose enough to drop down out of the way when I let go of it. When I do that, it smacks into the cable coming out of the output jack. This is something that I never even thought about when watching other people play Strats ~ and I probably wouldn't have thought about it at all if I'd never bought one myself. Is this typical? Or is there something wrong with the angle of my trem arm … should it be able to clear the cable/output jack? Having zero experience with Strats till now, I'm finding it tough to tell what's normal and what might be a problem, if that makes sense.

    Thanks,
    Chris
     
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    Guitarmageddon Squier Freak Strat-Talk Supporter

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    When an American Standard trem is setup right, the bar is not loose enough to just fall to wherever gravity takes it....if you use a spring in the hole before screwing in the arm, it allows you to position the arm wherever you want and it stays put for the most part.....then rotate it back up to use it....

    https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/fender-tremolo-arm-tension-springs-12

    Normally most players don't let it just fall and hit the cable...because it would in most cases.....
     
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  3. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Mouth breathin' knuckle dragger Strat-Talk Supporter

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    It's been that way since the first one.
     
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    abnormaltoy Mouth breathin' knuckle dragger Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I've always let my trem arm hang loose, so it's not in my way.
     
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  5. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

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    My Strat came with the arm bent so it cleared the cable's plug. That made it really high and very clumsy to keep in my hand while playing. I bent it so it feels good, and now it hits the plug if I let it drop. That doesn't bother me at all. The plug is rubber covered and no harm is done. I guess if I used one with a metal plug housing there could be more of a problem.
     
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    dbolt Strat-O-Master Strat-Talk Supporter

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    All four of mine hang loose and bang into my guitar chord. Always have. I don’t do the little baby springs.
     
  7. draelyc

    draelyc Strat-Talk Member

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    Good to know, y'all ~ thanks! :)

    So, this is basically a "join the club" kinda thing, huh? Cool. :thumb:

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    Lonn Mod Admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Mine also hang low and hit the bar.
     
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  9. draelyc

    draelyc Strat-Talk Member

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    Cool. I've got the little spring in there, and I can turn it one more turn (as I screw the arm in) and it'll stay wherever I put it. I just prefer it to drop away on its own so I don't have to push it down after using it. I'm lazy, I suppose. ;)
     
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  10. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

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    Not necessarily, it's a preference.
     
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    TimTheViking Strat-Talker

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    Try a couple wraps of teflon plumbing thread tape. It may provide just enough friction to let it drop out of your way but not all the way to the plug.
     
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  12. draelyc

    draelyc Strat-Talk Member

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    I wouldn't have thought of that ~ thanks!
     
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  13. Yves

    Yves Most Honored Senior Member

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    wrap some TPFE around the thread
     
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    TimTheViking Strat-Talker

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    Also, the term arm goes in deep enough so you never see it.
     
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    jaybones Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I use angled jack cables, and tuck the end underneath my strap so it stay pretty snug to the body.
     
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    draelyc Strat-Talk Member

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    I've got an angled cable, but the jack is still pretty bulky. Maybe I should look for one with a smaller jack …
     
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    jeff h Senior Stratmaster

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    ^This^
    Just use an angled jack if it annoys you that the trem arm hits the regular jack.
     
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  19. nederemer

    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    Yeah this is a common problem, you can switch it up and install a lefthand trem like Stevie Ray Vaughan~~

    Edit: Forgot to add, I think that will require routing the tremolo cavity out though.
     
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    jaybones Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The cable I use angle jack's round part fits inside the round recess in the jack plate.

    Makes a pretty neat package when the cable is tucked snugly behind the strap. I use a Vox coiled cable (10 M I think- only about 1/3 the length unstreached and doesn't tangle).
     
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