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Trower fans vs Clapton fans...???

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  1. mikej89

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    Hey guys, thought this would lead to an epic debate on Strat Talk... Two legends which have both chosen the Stratocaster as their weapon of choice... One legend is a household name, the other is mostly known by guitarists. The thing I mostly want to debate is; how come commercial 80's Clapton is accepted and commercial 80's Trower is not? Is it because Journeyman is that much better than Trower's offerings the same era, or is it mostly due to Clapton having better name recognition and Clapton fans generally accepting mainstream music better than Trower fans? Hmmmm........ Let the debate begin! Here's a little known commercially produced Trower song from 1990 around the time of Journeyman. Few people know or care about this song. Is it because "stoner blues Trower" has no place in the 80's mainstream? This is one of my favorite obscure songs, too bad nobody knows about it.

     
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    I'm a long time Trower fan, but this song sounds like it should be on top 40 AM radio.
     
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    That's the point, sir! That's what Clapton did with Journeyman, so why is it bad that Trower follows suit?
     
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    I thought Strat Talk would care about this, guess I was wrong... Why play guitar when internet porn exists, right? Shows how much the masses care about any music in general...
     
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    I saw the title and was hoping it was an announcement for a tug-of-war competition. :D:D
     
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    Well, I listened to the track and I wasn't impressed. There wasn't really a memorable phrase in the solo break. It's my first time hearing a Trower song. At least that I know of. So for someone like me, what is the best Trower song, with the most memorable lead break? Where should I start? I would like to know which songs made you a fan?

    I love the Journeyman album. It's classic. But not in the sense that his early stuff was. But still classic. Good hooks. Well polished. Alibi is my favorite song off that album. It was the first CD I ever bought.
     
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    That was cool! I really liked that one. I will definitely be checking him out on YouTube. Loved the feedback that he got. Thanks.
     
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    Glad you enjoyed it sir! Couldn't help noticing your screen name. Around 2004 my dad gave me his '79 Strat as my first guitar (didn't deserve it). Traded it in for a Les Paul Studio. Little did we know a '79 Strat would be worth as much as a custom shop in 2019 lol :(.
     
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    I was just on YouTube and I watched a live, from 2017 version of Bridge of Sighs. I was impressed. It was cool to see a guy that old doin what he was doin. Clearly i was born 20 years too late. All this cool music I missed out on, coming of age in the 80's.

    As far as my 79 strat is concerned. I remember sitting in my room wishing that I had a guitar just like John Oates had. It was 1979, and I was 10. The guitar I found at my buddies music store and I was shopping for my son. I picked it out, and he paid for it, and then when he was home on leave he picked it up. Best playing strat ever. All original. No fret wear. Hardly any wear at all. 2 years later, my son needed money, and decided to sell it, and gave me first crack at it, and I paid him what he paid for it, and I gave him a new American Special for Christmas that year as I felt bad for him not having a guitar any more. So win/win.
     
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    So sounds like you have no aprecition for classic music!
     
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    I missed out on a lot of classic music. My father was a religious whacko and wouldn't let us listen to the band's of the day. They were evil, according to him. I did have some kiss records that he confiscated and threw out promptly as soon as he found Jesus.
     
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    I don't think Trower at his most popular would equal Clapton at his lowest. I have to admire Clapton for his ability or remain popular to some level in parts of 6 (?) decades. I'm not fit to carry his jock strap as a player, he is a damn handy song writer, singer and player.

    BUT...I love Trower, but, he's not as Pop/radio friendly. If I had to choose one...excluding the other forever...it's Trower hands down. IF all I ever had to judge Trower was the song in the first post...things would be different. But, I know more.

    This song continues to be among my favorite, others will likely think otherwise, and that's just peachy keen.

    Nothing particularly special, it just clicks with me.

     
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    Trower and Dewar were a match made in heaven.
     
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    Here's some cool AOR/rock shizz from the late 70's... I'm dumb for liking this at all lol
     
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    I've never been a fan of either of them! Give me Peter Green or Paul Kossoff any day.
     
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    I loved Trower for about five years. Listened to him a LOT during those years. And the music I still like of his (but very very rarely listen to any more) is from that same era. I’ve liked Clapton for at least 50 of my 60 years, with stuff I like from almost every part of his career. So I guess Clapton just has a greater ability to get through the rough spots because he’s made so much more good music over the years and kind of earned a backlog of good will. Trower was a high school crush, Clapton is more like a lifetime relationship, so I tend to cut him more slack during the lean times. But it’s also about depth, not just breadth. Because Hendrix only had about a 3-4 year run and I still spend a lot more time listening to him than I ever did listening to Trower, even though I listened to Trower more during that 5 years or so I was into him. Trower was a fine player with a couple albums of memorable material. Clapton and Hendrix changed the world, Hendrix doing it all at once, Clapton doing it in several stages...
     
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    I never liked either of them, or understood their appeal.
     
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