Try It Myself or Pass??

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  1. zozoe

    zozoe Strat-Talker

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    Hi all~ OK,, Being the person that has learned to do pretty much everything myself, I'm pondering whether or not to tackle the task of moving this here bridge 2mm to the side & 2mm back. It's a wonderful freshman attempt project guitar that I acquired, & even before I received it, I could tell from the photos that something was sligtly off....

    So what's the best way to pull this thing off w/o wrecking it beyond beauty, then wishing I had let my 'guy' do it??

    Thanks all~ 20210923_185822.jpg
     
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    Give us a full length shot facing the guitar so we can see the alignment problem you describe.
     
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  3. zozoe

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    Admittedly, this was his 1st project, & the nut is a wreck as well, but not resulting in the problem in the full length shot.
    Thnx
     
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  4. Colnago1

    Colnago1 Senior Stratmaster

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    Any chance of correcting the issue by working on the neck pocket instead?
     
  5. bluejazzoid

    bluejazzoid Strats Amore Silver Member

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    Quick hack[?]: install offset saddles, then screw them back more than usual? Doing so might make use of the whammy bar difficult, but just an idea.[​IMG]
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    I remain puzzled…what problem(s) are you trying to solve?
     
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    I would strongly recommend taking your guitar to an experienced luthier. The problem is that your neck is not perpendicular to your bridge. Your bridge is in its correct location, if you try to move it you will ruin your body
     
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  8. zozoe

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    Hi Nad,,, check this pic out, & how the low E is almost falling off the fretboard, & the D & G aren't even close to where they should be...it's not on account of any nut issue...
    Thnx
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    The picture helps.
    I have no idea your level of skill, tools and equipment at your disposal, etc...
    Because of that the simple answer(s) are to
    a) follow the advice given earlier and take it to a quality, proven luthier;
    b) return it to the builder for correction. He has the most intimate experience with the guitar and would understand the characteristics of the wood and grain structure, having built it. Not to mention he would benefit from correcting an error; or
    c) what I would do (because I've done it) would be to fill the existing bridge post holes with an oak dowel, refit the bridge and make whatever routing adaptations the block would now require. A nice looking piece of wood would require matching color/finish of the dowels as best as possible, so much so that it would be out of my skill level. I'd have to get help with that. But I wouldn't worry with that til I was sure the guitar played appropriately and intonated as it should.
     
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  10. zook

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    If that is a bolt on neck, loosen the screws and push the neck down towards the treble bout until the strings are evenly spaced.
     
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    This should absolutely be your first adjustment. I've seen worse, but was able to bring it into line easily. And, it's completely reversable if it doesn't fix your problem
     
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    Where would one procure oak dowels? I have zero machining tools, with a Dremel tool being the most dangerous....

    With the loosening of the bolts, it could feasibly be easier, as well as aesthetically pleasing, to fill & redrill the neck holes after it's seated correctly?!?
     
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    You don't need to do that. There should be enough play in the mount to move the neck enough to fix the problem.
     
  16. nadzab

    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    Gotcha. So the guys advising loosening the neck bolts, re-aligning the neck by pulling gently but firmly (hold the neck by the headstock and brace the body between your knees) toward the treble side, then re-tightening the bolts are exactly correct. This is a simple and commonplace fix, and 99% sure to cure the problem...no filling & re-drilling required. I guess I was confused when you referred to moving the bridge back 2mm, in addition to moving it sideways.
     
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    Chances are it won't be necessary at all. If it is, you are obviously not equipped to carry out the work.
     
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    Could it be that the nut is not properly spaced?

    LMSS
     
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    If you don't know the answer to this question chances are you do not possess the skills necessary to relocate the bridge.
     
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    If you need a new nut, go pro, IMO. The technician will reset the neck so the nut will work.