Try It Myself or Pass??

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  1. zook

    zook Strat-Talk Member

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    OCCAM'S RAZOR
     
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  2. zozoe

    zozoe Strat-Talker

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    Yes, I love the movie Contact,,,
    So, yes, yes & yes,, I possess neither the tools, the expertise or the desire to 'f' up this beautiful guitar,,, The nut sucks, rattles from poor string seating, & is unevenly spaced,,
    Put both issues together, i'm NOT 'that' guy...
    I have folks who get paid to do just this!!
    Thnx for the affirmation that i ain't the guy...

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  3. Boyd L

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    Agree
     
  4. Boyd L

    Boyd L Strat-Talker

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    If your measurements are correct and you need 2mm of repositioning in both the x and y axes it will be an interesting exercise indeed to loosen and reposition the neck....that is if you're correct with those measurements. Hopefully a quick fix is all it takes.
     
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    vid1900 Most Honored Senior Member

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    If you don't have a drill press, you can't do this job
     
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    dirocyn Most Honored Senior Member

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    I agree with everyone who says the neck needs tweaked. The bridge appears to be centered with the join at the center of the guitar; if you move that to the side it'll look off.

    I assume you want to move the bridge back so that you can get the intonation set, the bass strings are about all the way back. It would be easier to put a shim between the end of the neck and the back of the neck pocket. I'm not sure if you can get a whole 2mm in there without it showing, but that would be the first thing to try. You might have to dowel & redrill the neck screws.
     
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    Exhead Strat-Tinkerer Gold Supporting Member

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    Following to see if the neck tweak works, I know it will but following anyway.
     
  8. rolandson

    rolandson Dr. Stratster

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    Well, you could just remove the 6th and call it a cuatro. Or...yeah, fix it.
     
  9. zozoe

    zozoe Strat-Talker

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    Extend & all else,,, AGREED, & will fudge with the neck later tonight,,, Thanks for all your assistance, curiosity & support. I mean it's a DIY, & it was this guy's freshman run, so especially after seeing the pics & the hanging E, I knew what I was buying into,, but it feels waay short of having purchased someone's headache of a used car... I'll hope that there's enuff wiggle room in the pocket to correct things... Will advise!!
     
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    zozoe Strat-Talker

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    Well,, ya'll rock, & you saved me from a task I was hesitant to attack from the git-go,,,,
    Loosening the neck, I was able to squeeze at least 1mm of sideways tilt, & as you can see, it's close enuff for comfort,,,, TGet a gander of that nut!!! That'll get me banned, huh?!?!
    So, all in all, I'll be all in for just a simple nut job....
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    CB91710 No GAS shortage here Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    String through holes won't line up with offset saddles.
     
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    zozoe Strat-Talker

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    And with me positioning the strings to where they should & will be, gives me a totally dynamite axe,,, Again, look at those original notches on the nut.... I'm very happy, & not terribly surprised that your collective smarts would get me there...
    Thnx again ~
     
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  13. zook

    zook Strat-Talk Member

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    never mind
     
  14. Lovnmesomestrat

    Lovnmesomestrat Senior Stratmaster

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    Is it just me, or is the spacing between the "B" and high "E" string on the nut look outrageous and could that be throwing the other strings out of align?

    LMSS
     
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  15. zook

    zook Strat-Talk Member

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    It does look wider that the others. I'd get a new pre-slotted nut. In the OP's case, however, I'd recommend having a luthier set the new nut in and set the height appropriately.
     
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    Lovnmesomestrat Senior Stratmaster

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    As I'm looking at the enlarged pix of the nut, I see a line across the head-stock; could the head-stock have been broken from the neck at some point and repaired and THAT'S causing the alignment problem?

    LMSS
     
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  17. zozoe

    zozoe Strat-Talker

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    I don't change motor oil, file frets or cut & touch nuts,,, So 'my guy' will cut me something nice in Bone, as he has done on all my stuff....
    Thnks
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    It looks like a veneer has been glued on too the headstock face and professionally finished. :p That picture made me feel quite ill...
     
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    zozoe Strat-Talker

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    No, the neck is solid, rivaling that of my '54 Jr., & and that line is where this newbie builder perhaps didn't quite know how to navigate the curvature the leads to the nut,, It's a cocobolo veneer, whereas the body top consists of a thick cap of coco'b.... The fretboard is purple heart atop of a Wenger neck... The faux Strat/Kluson style tuning keys really suck, & will be rapidly replaced w/mini Grovers, & yes, in gold...
    Love that nut, huh?? good grief
     

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  20. henderman

    henderman Dr. Stratster

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    i make things from scratch and within a few thousandths of an inch everyday but i will tell you -

    the first time i made a nut from scratch i had to throw it out after inventing new cuss words. even if you mark it perfect, slotting it on those marks is a whole new world.

    and bending cocobolo for a headstock veneer is another not for newbies task but the guy had guts to take on such a detailed first build.
     
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