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Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by dscottyg, May 31, 2021.
Or claim it's part of your "sound" and call it a day.
I like to read user reviews on gear and inevitably there is always that one guitar reviewer that says, "It was in tune right out of the box." Even if it's true, why would you think to mention that in your guitar review? I want to know about neck shape, pickups and electronics, overall feel, performance and sounds. I would never expect a guitar to arrive at my door in tune after travelling hundreds or thousands of miles.
I want to confirm that this actually worked for me. When I got home today I went from 5 springs (hard decked) to three springs on my main player (an American Performer). The bridge still rests on the body, but now when I bend a string it lifts ever so slightly. Tuning stability has improved MASSIVELY doing this, and stop bends are not affected. I'm quite certain I will go from re-tuning between each song to now tuning once per set. WOOT!! Even with aggressive bending my Strat now comes right back to perfect pitch.
It is possible. My strat is the same. My job is to tune pianos by ear. So I trust my hearing. I check regularly after a set, but it is a very stable guitar.
I've been teching my own guitars for about 25 years or so. I think it makes me a better player and I'll take any advantage I can get
I've set up my three strats with 3 springs, fully floating. Two have traditional 6 screw trems and one is a 2-point. All three stay in tune just fine with vintage style spit tuners.
Occasionally Tuning a String during a Set is just ….normal…. The Longer the Set the more of a likelihood it is I Believe, especially if it gets REAL ……..Lively , plus Stage Lights ( Temperature) e t c
It's a mindset thing. I tell my students "Every time you pick up a guitar ASSUME it's out of tune". And for bandmates it's "Always Be Tuning". It's just a mindset. Control the situation instead of hoping. Yea, I'm surprised that some of my guitars hold tune longer, but I assume they're out every time. Once you start recording, you'll learn that the hard way.
People tell lots of lies on the internet. This is one of them.
Also, the harp of the piano is made of metal, more stable than a wood structure like a guitar.
My EJ barely moves. We have had major temp/humidity swings in the 3 weeks ive owned it. And its still playable w/o noticing.
But has a quarter sawn neck. Supposed to help.
A myth. No guitar is immune from changes in tempature, humidity, string bends or any other reason that will make a guitar go out of tune.
It is wood and metal. It Expands and contracts by the laws of physics.
Any real artist will tune prior to any session IMHO. I maybe wrong, I maybe crazy.............
I read an article by Bob Margolin, who played guitar beside Muddy Waters in the late 70s that he once tuned Muddy's Telecaster and it stayed in tune for like 11 days of playing.
people change the gauge of string and do not adjust the intonation stating they "do not need to".
this just means they can not hear it...
and my boss tuner is accurate to 3 cent while my peterson stroboclip is accurate to 1/10th of a cent, iirc... the boss says it is in tune while the peterson says it is not.
In the olden days, before we had electronic tuners or the internet, close enough was good enough...
As mentioned before, a guitar may stay in-tune by itself, but they are made of wood and steel and subject to humidity and temperature. This is normal! It may be in tune enough to sound good, but more than likely will not be at concert pitch.
Every time I check my tuning I notice the whole guitar has gone sharp. It's in tune with itself - as in the strings are in tune with each other - but I need to tune down the whole thing.
Yeah! Cold air makes the strings shrink microscopically and go sharp in winter.
Your room must be cool temperature.
But that guy who borrows your guitar and immediately "improves" its tuning is still, and will always be around.