Turtle Guitar

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  1. Roger66

    Roger66 Senior Stratmaster Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    Am I in trouble?
     
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    I bought this from a crackhead for $80. It IS a Hawksbill. But the tuners look at least 50 years old. It might be legal. They got endangered status in 1970. I intonated it perfectly and the action and sound are great. Does anyone know about these things? Im thinking of putting a pickup on it. It has steel or bronze strings. Am I in trouble??
     

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    Not sure i would own this one... it looks good but...
     
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    I would hope so.
     
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    Part of me says ‘it’s too late to save this one’ but another part of me says ‘I wouldn’t go near it’. On balance, I wouldn’t want it.
     
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    I didn’t see the pics at First and was confused… now I saw them and even more confused…
     
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    You could put a humbucker in it and start a metal band named Turtle Corpse.
     
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    There was an episode of pawn stars where they had to turn away a guitar like this because it is illegal to own if made out of endangered or protected species. I believe they said it’s a felony to sell.
     
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    Bad karma - stay away...
     
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    Yeah, it seems that unless it could be documented to have been created before the endangered species status, then it will be considered highly illegal.
    Might want to put that one under the bed and not share it's existence. Even a feather from a hawk is illegal to possess in most states.
    Generally, state-level Departments of Natural Resources have incredible powers of enforcement... not only to issues fines, but also to confiscate the item, & anything they deem associated with it. Including vehicles used to transport it.
     
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    The short answer is yes you should be worried secondly maybe not post **** like that on the Internet?

    You don't hear me bragging about being DB Cooper on here do you?
     
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    https://www.fws.gov/international/pdf/factsheet-can-i-sell-it.pdf
    According to a site that explains the aforementioned Pawn Stars episode, A Sea Turtle shell guitar must be documented to be over 100 years old. The only exemption of the time limitations is for marine mammals, which turtles are not.

    "Unfortunately, international and interstate black market trade continues, often fueled by online sellers or ignorant tourists bringing contraband in from places like the Caribbean. Under CITES, permits or other documentation are required for those who want to commercially trade items made from threatened animals and plants, even if they date to before 1975. Under the Federal law the Endangered Species Act (ESA), legality varies, but an "antique" item must be at least 100 years old to bypass import/export rules. Only the Marine Mammal Protection Act (which doesn't apply to turtles) makes allowances for items that predate the 1972 law, but only if the animal in question doesn't have further protection under the ESA, according to the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service."
    Read More: https://www.looper.com/348061/the-g...pawn-stars-in-deep-trouble/?utm_campaign=clip
     
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    That would be very unlikely, seeing as I AM DB Cooper...
     
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    C'mon man, crackheads don't have anything to sell to you. By purchasing it (supporting your local crackhead) you basically become the pawn shop.
     
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    If you are DB Copper, you might be my hero LOL- kidding of course

     
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    Maybe you could get the crackhead to write a letter of documentation. Have it notorized by a heroin junkie or the like. And then hope that if you do get investigated for having this the law enforcement official is a meth addict. Good luck!
     
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    I would guess it was stolen to begin with.
     
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    So the neck doesn’t play fast?
     
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    I didn’t steal nothin.. 50BC04D8-ED35-4ACD-8DAE-092A588498D2.jpeg
     
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