Using XP on the Interwebs

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  1. Monkeyboy

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    I'd have to look, but it's only a dual core . It's fine; I'm not going to mess with the OS.
    It's great for what I want to do , but I would like to be able to load a few things now and then.
     
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    So here's another question:
    Remove all other antivirus and then download Avast, or keep the other (just to be safe?)
    (disabled ?) and download Avast , install it, then uninstall the old ones?

    I think : get rid of the old , then 'load the new , so the new 'loads up and starts without interference .
    There's a Tend, and an old Norton somethingorother on it .

    I think I still have copies I printed of "Things to do in XP to help with making music "
    or whatever to that effect , so that you don't get interrupted by the automatic bs that's built into
    Windows . I'll remember when I read it again....
     
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    The text on that first link is wiped . Looks like the Micro police have been busy :thumbd:
     
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    2 GB , and 1.86 2x cpu. Pretty hot stuff for when it came out (2006):thumb:
     
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    You'll almost always need to uninstall existing AV before installing new. Generally speaking, part of the install process for the new AV will detect and uninstall other AV. Especially if that older AV is Norton, you'll want it gone completely just out of general principle as much as anything...
     
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    And it (Norton) won't go quietly, you have to beat it with a big stick use a removal tool.
     
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    Indeed; it's worse than most of the viruses it claims to protect you from.
     
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    Robins Dr. von Loudster

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    Fact is - the less people are using XP the more safe it is to use.
    It is down to about 6% of all the PCs that are running on the INet these days.
    Linux is and was always safer than any Windows one the market.
    There is now way installing anything on Linux that is/was not notified or allowed by the user.
    The last big Ransomware sucker mostly infected WIN7. WINXP couldn´t spread it and it just got the blue screen and blocked.
    Linux is a very good idea if you just want to surf.

    All the best,
    Robin
     
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    Yes indeedy, but a lot of folks aren't ready for it or don't want to switch. If security is the primary concern, one of the BSD's would give you improved security above even Linux, generally speaking, but Linux has more of a support infrastructure.
    In any event, one of the best things you can do for yourself on any operating system is have an administrator account that you log into only to perform system maintenance and install/remove software, and a limited user account that you use for day-to-day stuff. One of the biggest flaws XP had was that so many of the programs running on it required an administrator account, so people were logged in as such for their day-to-day stuff, and when malware did come along, it caused infection much more readily because the account it activated in already had full privilege to install anything. It made getting pwned a lot easier. 7 and 10 have gone a long way to fix these problems, but it's still not perfect.
    On my MacBook and on my Linux box, I have user accounts that I use for browsing, photo editing, whatever. On my 7 install, it's set up as an admin because of the reasons I talked about, but I only use that for gaming, so I'm not particularly concerned. Anything I do online with regards to paying bills, checking accounts, personal info, etc. is done my Linux box or Mac.
     
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    Microsoft had to go back on their planned abandonment because it was such a liability for the internet community, especially given how many hospitals, nuclear subs, ATMs, and other equipment still runs XP.

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/13/15790030/microsoft-windows-xp-vista-security-updates-june-2017

    If you have it behind a firewall, don't install Java or Flash, and use an updated browser like Firefox ESR (the last supported version on XP) you're not in terrible shape; every OS has exploits sitting there waiting to be discovered.
     
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    Norton sandpaper - world class product

    Norton on "The Honeymooner's" - epic comedy

    Norton Antivirus - pure poop on it's best day
     
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    I had an XP system machine I was still using up to about a month ago... when it finally crashed and burned :eek:...
    I suggest that you definitely get rid of "Norton"... talk about sucking the life out of any performance you'll get out of that machine... Norton gets into everything... I hate it... got that off a long time ago... and it's true what's been said about it... it doesn't like to go easily.. a real PITA to get rid of it... but worth it...
    I wouldn't bother putting any Anti Virus protection of any kind on your XP machine... it's only going to bog it down... just rock the web with your firewall in place and don't worry about it...
    Turn "Insta-Sheild" and MS updates OFF!!!!!!!!!!
    Go with Firefox as a Browser... or try rocking it with Linux... I've never used Linux so... I can't say anything about it... but, I did use Firefox and it was OK with XP...
     
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    Check out the Pale Moon browser; it's a fork of FF and resembles an older version of it, but doesn't have all the bloat that they've tacked on to recent versions of FF.
     
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    great info, thanks , humanoids
     
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    Yeah, I have bad memories of Norton from ages ago. This baby came with it, and Mrs. Monkey never took it off.
     
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    It is now abandonware for XP, getting no more updates including security. Firefox 52 ESR still is current, although they are supposed to stop supporting XP soon, meaning sometime in the near future there will be a bug that goes unfixed (since it is very "controlled" for an open-source project).
     
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    The box has IE8 . Any huge reasons not to just use that ?
    If I do the registry tweak ?
     
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    Well yeah, it's IE. Mostly useful only for downloading a real browser.
     
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    Well that's a bummer; I figured that if it still on 7 it would run on XP OK.
     
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