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Value of this Gibson ES335

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  1. 57Strat777

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    A guy is offering to sell me this 2008 ES335. Is this a Custom Shop ES335? 59 reissue? What am I looking at in the pics? If I wanted to search for this model to see what it is selling for, what model name should I use in the search on Reverb.com?


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  2. Guy Named Sue

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    Esdpavsivh1 =ES, Plain Top, Vintage Sunburst, Nickle Hardware

    It's a regular dot 335 they're all built at the custom shop facility all the ES models.
     
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    Email the serial number to Gibson, They will tell you what it is.
    I would not buy anything until that is confirmed.
     
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    It checks out fine, it's a 2008 you can tell by the serial number 02288727
     
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    Nice! That right there is on my bucket list.
     
  6. 57Strat777

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    Thanks guys! How much does this ES335 sell for new, and what would be a fair price for this one?
     
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    About 2800 new, a 2008 I'd suppose used would be fair at 1800
     
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    Can't answer that until it is determined exactly what it is. Pic of the label inside? All looks legit to me as coming from Memphis except that the COA says "Custom". I don't know if possibly the Memphis ESs came with COAs like that in 2008?

    https://www.dirkwitte.com/listing/gibson-es-335-dot-reissue-2008-vintage-sunburst/14925423
    I found this which if all true says you have a dot reissue made in Memphis. No, not a Custom Shop model So it appears the COAs from Memphis are indeed like that in 2008.
    I'd still confirm with Gibson.
     
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    The memphis COA’s always make people think they have a custom shop guitar and rightfully so it is very confusing. But that is not a custom shop. I think the best way of telling custom shop ES’ to non custom shop is the serial number. Imprinted into the headstock with that long number and sometimes a made in USA= non custom shop.

    inked on the headstock or no serial on the headstock at all and the serial just on the sticker in the f hole = custom shop

    there’s also memphis vs Nashville custom shop (Nashville ones bringing in more $ than memphis). That you can always tell from the sticker in the f hole

    as for price 1800-2100 ish probably
     
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    Thanks so much guys!
     
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    Tangential question: why are COAs so important for value? They're much easier to fake than the guitar itself. Not that I'm implying there's any fakery here, but why would a piece of paper really matter for valuation? A serial number check with the manufacturer seems a much more reliable way to establish authenticity I'd think.
     
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    Before I put on my glasses I thought this said "Espensivo = ES..."

    which is also true.
     
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    Mostly assures me that it's the original owner I'm dealing with and that the guitar hasn't been stolen. Other than that I don't care.
     
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    Anytime you sell a guitar you will get more money for it if it is all original and comes with the original case and all the case candy. If anything is missing or replaced with non-original parts, there is a lower perceived value. If the COA is missing, people tend to want to pay less, just like if the original case is missing or replaced with a non original case the value will be lower.

    Think about it like this; if two guitars are for sale and they are identical in every way except one is missing the COA, which one are you gonna buy? The vast majority of people will buy the guitar with the COA.
     
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    I get it. I see it like case candy, which I don't put much value on myself. The COA does seem to carry more weight than the free cable, strap, and polishing cloth however from what I've seen. I just find it interesting that people think the COA can prove authenticity when it's the easiest part of the package to fake.
     
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    Now that I get.
     
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    I’ve wondered about that too. Without some sort of anti-forgery tech akin to modern currency, the COA means diddly to me. I recognize that a future buyer might want it if I ever sell, but that’s about it.

    I believe Gibson is embedding RFID tags under the fretboard now, but most of us don’t have RFID scanners just yet.
     
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    To be honest, COAs remind me of stuff like commemorative Elvis plates advertised on late-night TV.
     
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