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Vintage Noiseless™ alternatives?

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  1. Stratoguy

    Stratoguy Strat-Talk Member

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    What would be, in your opinion, a good alternative for the Eric Clapton's Vintage Noiseless™ to have a more crispy and clean sound? I find the noiseless PU to be dark and lack of presence and dynamics in comparison to my other strat MIM 60's.
    What left me really disappointed is the lack of volume and personality form the 2 and 4 positions that I like so much on the MIM60
    thank you

    ps Anybody has tried to get rid of the mid boost to get more highs?
     
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  2. rafasounds

    rafasounds Senior Stratmaster

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    The Vintage Noiseless set I have installed in one my Strats has the best quack sound I've ever heard in any Strat.

    Sorry, don't have an answer. Mine doesn't have the mid boost though.
     
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  3. lammie200

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    I have a set of Lace Holy Grails on Ebay right now with a mostly loaded pickguard. They definitely are not dark sounding. You could easily add a treble boost pot set up to it. Check the Classifieds on this forum for a link if you are interested.
     
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    I got Lace Holy Grails in my EC Signature Strat and they sound awesome! Very distinctive from my other strats. I also have a Jeff Beck sig strat that has the hot noiseless in it and I plan on change it them to something different... I was thinking maybe Seymour Duncan vintage stack or classic stacks.
     
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  5. EC Strat-boy

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    I have an EC Strat and changed out the VN pups for SD Classic Stack Plus 4’s. They are exactly what you are looking for. Glassy bell tones and lots of quack in 2 and 4

    What also helped was that I switched out the TBX for a 250k .022 master tone pot

    I also did a push pull master for the bridge always on option. And absolutely kept the mid boost. Also floated the bridge - glad I did. 84DE4360-16FE-44D8-AEC4-71E77A97428B.jpeg

    The guitar is sick now
     
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  6. albala

    albala Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    A lot of people say Fender '57/62s are a good basic classic Strat sound. I have a set in a guitar and I would agree. I also have a guitar with a mixed set of Dimarzio Areas and they sound an awful lot like my '57/62s
     
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    Yeah I’ve read for the best Noiseless options it’s either classic stacks or Areas. Of course LACEs are awesome too.
     
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    Which Area is it?
     
  9. albala

    albala Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I have guitars with OE 666 Lace Golds, Lace Hot Golds, and Duncan Classic Stacks from the 90s.

    The Lace are very clean. The classic stacks (older version) are on the thick side a la p90s

    I'm really into the classic stacks right now
     
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    albala Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    It's a mixed set I bought pre loaded. I think they're a '58, '61 and '67
     
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  11. EC Strat-boy

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    Evidently the stack 4’s are more chimey and bell-like vs prior versions. I’m telling you they just sing.
     
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    albala Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I just might be looking to try out a set of them. Thanks for the recco
     
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    I dropped a loaded Dimarzio Area pickguard into my Buddy Guy Strat, and I’ve been really happy. Great cleans, nice with overdrive. I’m a big fan.

    I’d suspect they’d sound great with a mid boost circuit.
     
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    I just listened to a few vids demoing the Plus Stack’s. You’re right. They do the sing. The neck pickup tone is to die for. The thing is, it’s hard to tell from computer or phone speakers what it really sounds like. But it sounded great in the vids that I seen.
     
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    They sound the same as in the vids
     
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    With regards to the bolded section: your MIM60 does not have a reverse wound middle pickup. That means no hum canceling in 2 ad 4. That may explain why you notice such a big difference.
     
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  18. Antstrat

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    Areas are GREAT! They kick the poo out of the Fender vintage noiseless. I would have mentioned this in another similar thread but the OP was looking at fender specific noiseless. Gotta try the classic stacks after keep hearing about them here. Damn this forum.
     
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    Do it! (The Classic Stacks are my fav)
     
  20. Stratoguy

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    Thanks for all the specs. I think I'll give a try. Ps even my bridge is floating. can't stand a wood block in my guitar... :)
     
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