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Vintage style, classic 60s, wiring

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  1. Yves

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    Hi folks,
    Just a quick one here.
    I'm having issues with my rubbish soldering job and had to return to start.

    Is it typical vintage 60s style wiring not to have tone control wired to the middle pickup position only?

    Cheers!
     
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    Typical vintage Strat wiring has the middle tone knob for the neck pickup, and the bottom one for the middle....NONE on the bridge....

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    Thanks for getting back to me on this so quick @Guitarmageddon .
    I have the 5 positions switch and ended up having tone control on all but the one position with the middle pickup on its own. Does that mean I wired the middle pup to the lug on the switch meant to be wired to the bridge pup and vice versa?

    It's not too bad a result but the middle pup wired that way comes out quite strong.
     
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    That's how I wire mine....I prefer it that way, with bridge pickup and neck on their own tone and none on the middle....

    This diagram below is normal vintage wiring...ignore that toggle switch with the red wires....that's some other mod....

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    See that lug n the bottom row of 4 on the switch, next to volume pot (3rd lug)? The one with no wire attached? That's the one that would connect you to the bridge pickup...and you would have the wire connected to the bottom tone control removed from bottom lug 2 and placed there....
     
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    Thanks again @Guitarmageddon

    Yes, that's how I got it wired i.e.3rd lug to bottom tone pot. Nothing wired to the second lug.
    So if I connected both 3rd and 2nd lugs would I have tone control on both bridge and middle pups?
    Cheers!
     
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    If you connected both those lugs with a jumper then yes - but your position 4 middle / neck might lose a little brightness and punch due to double loading, having 2 tone pots in the circuit at one time. Position 2 won't change because regardless you only have the one tone pot in the circuit, jumpered or not....
     
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    Thanks. Yeah...I'll leave it that way for a little while now and see how I get on with it as is.
    Was great having your take on this.
    Cheers!
     
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    Another option is to wire your Strat like a Tele - master volume & master tone. Then you don't have to remember (perhaps in the middle of a gig) which tone knob works on which pickup. It's simpler & easier. And why would anyone want a pickup on which you can't tame the top end? I've never understood that.
     
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    Because I'm in a country band and middle pickup by itself with no tone control is great for chicken pickin'
     
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    So is a middle pickup with the tone knob turned to 10. ;)
     
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    Believe me, with no tone wired in....it's brighter and punchier....cuts through the mix more with the band...I suppose if you used no load pots it would be the same...

    I need a tone control on my bridge pickup though, and I don't like double-loading the pots and having 2 in the circuit in position 2 or 4...loses some definition IMHO..
     
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    Fair enough. I rarely find that I need to make a Strat sound brighter - it's usually the opposite.
     
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    On my '94 ('54 RI), I have the bridge and neck wired to the bottom tone. Never have to turn it up to 10. Strats are trebly enough! :) Imho, of course.
     
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    It probably has something to do with me playing through solid state 1X10 or 1X8 non Fender amps....Fender would be brighter
     
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