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  1. Thrup'ny Bit

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    When I learned, there were no videos. How ever did we manage?
     
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    I've used all kinds. Vintage style for the win. It's the best design out there. I cut each string two posts after the one I'm stringing, except for the B and high E which I don't cut. I wrap the strings in a way to lessen the angle after the nut, except for the B and high E which I wrap until the bottom for a better lock. I find many advantages on this type of tuners. No string end to make holes in my hands and damage gig bags. The strings get locked in such a way, when strung correctly, that whammy bar functionality is enhanced. Plus they just look better.
     
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  3. Stratoskater

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    Split shafts are still easier IMO. No reaching under to spin the thumb wheel or turning two things. Just pull it two posts past, cut, insert, tune.
     
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    Also lighter, cheaper, less to go wrong and not plain ugly. :)
     
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    Each have their advantages. I dont have to carry a pair of cutters or a winder for speed. I'm not knocking the vintage style, just showing why I like these.

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    I don’t know how you managed to do anything pre electricity.
     
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    For a long time, my only exposure to Kluson tuners was old, worn-out examples. I thought of them as junk, and vastly inferior to Schallers.

    Well, I still do like REAL Schallers, but I typically have one out of every 6 Schaller copies die within a few years at most.

    I’ve also learned that ever-higher gear ratios can be a PITA, at least to me. They are very sensitive to contact with a gig bag, take forever to restring, and even tuning takes longer. I don’t have any trouble nudging low-ratio tuners just a bit for precise tuning.

    So yeah, a set of vintage-style tuners in good shape can be a lot better than I gave them credit for.
     
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    All really good points actually.

    I do think the vintage style is much better than the "non-locking" style tuners, but the way I secure my strings (I do the "overlap the string after the first turn" method) so locking tuners would probably save me some time, otherwise the vintage vs locking thing is pretty much a draw in my book - unless you don't have a wire cutter handy, then I suppose either the locking or non-locking types would have the advantage.

    But I'm stubborn and usually don't change out my tuners unless absolutely necessary, so whatever comes installed on any particular guitar suits me just fine.

    Here's a video that describes the "overlap" method I mentioned above (which is somewhat more difficult to do with the vintage style Fender tuners since you can't wrap it around like they do in the video):



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    I always cut the old strings to take them off, so they're right there.
     
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    Yeah, but you're a professional! ;)

    The rest of us commoners are lucky if we can successfully wipe our own arses after we poop... :confused:


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    Same here.
     
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    I usually swap out standard tuners for locking because it's a direct swap but if the vintage would fit my 2014 American Standard I'd go that route simply because I think they look so cool.
     
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    One has a man to do that sort of thing, doesn't one? :eek:
     
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    Official position title - Groom of the stool. :)
     
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    Well, we didn't play electric guitars, that's for sure.

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    Don't confuse the lad. ;)
     
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    Make sure you start with the slot verticle and go up after inserting the string. You can start wrapping tighter.
     
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