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Vintage Tuning Pegs?

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  1. Chont

    Chont Most Honored Senior Member

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    I have both. The High E string can be a Pain in the ass when it slips while stringing up the vintage ones so maybe I prefer the ease of the Sperzels but once I figured out the trick for locking the High E down they both hold a tune perfectly.

    Vintage ones look a little nicer.

    I guess I have no preference
     
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  2. Hanson

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    Love them!
     
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  3. crashbelt

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    Another vote for vintage style. I put the Gotoh ones on my 97 US Std - perfect and they look great too. My 65 in the avatar has the originals still in superb working order.

    Can't imagine why Fender ever changed them!!
     
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  4. Nadnitram

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    If I only had to string EADG, the vintage would be fine. But the B and e are a PITA, and I don't change strings on that one often enough to get good at it.
     
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  5. Thrup'ny Bit

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    Simples...

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  6. Camitampa

    Camitampa Strat-Talk Member

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    I love my vintage tuners. No poked fingers and easy to string.
     
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  7. AxemanVR

    AxemanVR I appreciate, therefore I am... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I assume because the posts taper wider at the top, if you wind upwards it will get tighter?

    Anyway here’s the “string overlap method” I was referring to earlier (which also shows the post taper):

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  8. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    What a mess and totally unnecessary. You always wind down the post and never overlap the turns.
     
  9. rocknrollrich

    rocknrollrich Senior Stratmaster

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    Very cool. Are they drop in replacement, or did you have to modify anything?
     
  10. rocknrollrich

    rocknrollrich Senior Stratmaster

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    I would imagine if you didn't have wire cutters with you, and you had the vintage tuner, you'd be screwed.

    I like the locking ones as a first choice, regular tuners 2nd, and split shafts last.
    I can comfortably use all three types, and they all work well for me.
     
  11. rocknrollrich

    rocknrollrich Senior Stratmaster

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    Sorry to say, that doesn't look right to me.
     
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  12. AxemanVR

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    It’s an old trick to lock the string so you don’t need as many turns (and avoid any slipping later on). Sort of like the original locking tuner.

    After putting the cut end of the string in the vintage tuner hole, and as the string is being wrapped around the post, just be sure to go above the anchored end of the string on the first pass, then overlap the string downwards over itself. Then the rest of the turns keep going down until the proper tension is reached.

    The only real advantage is less turns of the string around the post, thus less time waiting for it to settle in place. Probably more useful on tremolo guitars than hardtails. No doubt just a waste of my precious time.

    I guess I’ve just been doing it so long I don’t know how to stop...



     
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  13. Believer7713

    Believer7713 Most Honored Senior Member Silver Member

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    They are a direct replacement for tuners like these.
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    The guitar I showed in the video and this this one both had trap tuners so I had to ream the holes in the headstocks then drill for the set screws to line them up properly.
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    Also here is a neck that had the Fender two pin tuners.
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    If they were the Squier 2 pin then they would have been completely covered.
    Plus they are 18:1 ratio and can be bought for about $55 a set new.


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  14. Hanson

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    I've always cut the string to the proper length first then evenly wrapped the post with no overlap, nice neat and orderly. I prefer to wrap a good portion of the post with the string. I've been doing it that way for 40 years without any issues. Never needed an overlap.
     
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    what's with the holes in the neck and the allen key holder?
     
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    Believer7713 Most Honored Senior Member Silver Member

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    That guitar has a Floyd Rose. The Hex Keys are for making the adjustments and unlocking/locking the nut. The two holes are where the mounting bolts for the nut go through the neck on this one.

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    Speak fer Yerself! :confused::D
     
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  18. rocknrollrich

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    Cool. Nothing wrong with doing what works for you.
     
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  19. fezz parka

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    Its just new to you. It's old to some of us. ;)

    If they made them 3x3 they'd be on my Gibson's. Best tuner ever.
     
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  20. Antstrat

    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    Had sit back and ponder this, a lot to take in before I crafted a well thought out response that some may go "uh huh me too" or wish they knew where I lived so they could poop on my lawn.

    Have several strats with different types of tuners. Some are easier than others but overall I never really cared, they all seem to work fine and stay in tune. Never occured to me to change them. Am I weird?
     
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