What is this mysterious stratocaster???

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  1. Kdyer17

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    IMG_4492.JPG I inherited this fender that looks like a walnut "the STRAT" from 80-83 but the headstock is wrong and says "stratocaster" but the serial number is from that same era. Anyone seen this oddity before? Chances are it is not a fake because it comes from an avid fender collector that primarily made all his purchases from one reputable guitar shop in the 1980s...soooo....what is it?? Any advice is welcomed! Help solve this mystery!
     

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    Welcome to the forum @Kdyer17

    It's late right now in the USA east coast....so some of the experts might not be around until tomorrow....

    I'm tagging the big guns @Yogi @John C
     
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    First thought: Early '80s Walnut Stratocaster.

    EDIT: It looks like it has a brass trem block, putting in line with the early '80s issues like the "Strat."
     
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    heltershelton Vivamus libero Vivamus duris Silver Member

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    Definitely doesn't look fake. Sometimes fender makes a one off kinda thing. That one is probably worth some denero.
     
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    It is beautiful, but isn't walnut rather heavy?
     
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    You are the absolutely the best. I really appreciate your help. Thank you so much
     
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    It is, and the guitar is super heavy, like Gibson heavy, but I'm not positive that it's walnut. I have no documention as to what this thing is.
     
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    Thank you so much. Are there any resources to find out if it is actually like a weird one off? The fender custom shop is about 15 minutes away from my house, can they help diagnose this guitar?
     
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    they might be able to help. might wanna take some armed guards with you man so no one tries to take that thing. i would. i simply just dont know. @Ronkirn might know what it is and what its worth. if he doesnt know, i dont know who would.
     
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    Haha! Thank you SO much, I really appreciate it.
     
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    heltershelton Vivamus libero Vivamus duris Silver Member

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    you see that highlight stuff where his name is red? he will see that and answer soon. for us mere mortals its like praying to a guitar god. save us, ronkirn!
     
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    Indeed it is, you may now slap me with a wet lettuce...o_O
     
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    i decline. i have invented the cabbage shooter. i will shoot you with that.
     
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    I bought my Stratocaster in '83, so I was doing a lot of shopping around at that time, and in '85 or so almost bought a Blue "The Strat". I also remember this guitar. Pretty sure what what you have there was simply called the "Walnut Stratocaster" and that it was NOT part of the "The Strat" line. And, the words "The Strat", were on The Strat headstock.
    You got a bit of Fender history there.
    Beautiful Guitar!!!
     
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    They don't have records before 1993, so that may not accomplish much.
     
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    It looks like a slight variation on the walnut The STRAT.
    Does it have an S1 switch ?
    The STRAT guitars had S1, and gold knobs and switch tip, but everything else looks correct other than the logo of course.

    We've seen examples of transitional guitars such as this before from the early '80s.

    Lift the pickguard and look for stickers and an X1 bridge pickup.

    I'd be interested if the guitar is for sale.
     
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    Walnut stratocasters from the early 80s have their own serial number prefix - CC. I'm inclined to think the e series serial number does indicate a Japan neck from ~1983 but it says right there made in the USA; markings on the neck or neck pocket may reveal more dating.

    The headstock finish appears not as deep or consistent as the body, almost as though someone did a dye job on it to match. The light truss rod wood insert however makes one think it did come this way.

    The key will be to find out what bridge this is, something that I've not seen before, with its huge solid block for intonation screws that appears flat on the bottom screw edge instead of angled or tapered, and no writing.

    Could be something weird like a one of the first non-70's era guitars to be issued before they got fancy.

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