What is this mysterious stratocaster???

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Kdyer17, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Kdyer17

    Kdyer17 Strat-Talk Member

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    Correct, there are two. Yes you can put an Allen wrench there. Very odd!
     
  2. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

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    Is there anything unusual or different about the 7th fret marker or the rear of the neck at that location ?
    Both the heel screw and the headstock can both be adjusted ?

    There is some mention about "test guitars" in the early '80s regarding the development of the BiFlex truss rod which appeared in production around 1982 IIRC.
     
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    Mr Dunlop Senior Stratmaster

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    Fender came out with the bi flex truss rod in 83 or so. This appears to be a 2 way truss rod. I have not seen a fender with a 2 way. It may be a guitar in the early stages of development that had the odd features we are seeing that never made it into a model.
    Its an odd guitar.
    Either way its gonna be a guitar that will draw alot of doubts and probable not have alot of value to it IMO.
    Most will probale think the neck is an aftermarket.
     
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    s5tuart Perfecting time travel since 2525

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    Get it to the UK and I'll give you £600 for it. :D

    Anyone on here coming this way from near the OP?
     
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    Mansonienne Mod admin Staff Member Silver Member

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    Sorry, too far south for me, I'm leaving in 2 days and am already taking a guitar...
     
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    s5tuart Perfecting time travel since 2525

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    I wasn't hinting by the way! :p
    But thanks for thinking of it! As Mr Micawber said, something will turn up! :cool:
     
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    tealsixtysix Senior Stratmaster

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    No they're not. That's an early '80s set. Bridge pickup is an X-1 (yellow wire). Pots and cap look to be same period.
     
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    Guitarmageddon Dr. Stratster

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    I guess you didn't see all the posts in the thread, where I state that I was incorrect....

     
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    stratistically Strat-O-Master

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    Sounds like fun!
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    You folks are seriously weird.

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    I'm going to keep my eye on you.
     
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    John C Most Honored Senior Member Silver Member

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    Hey, I just got back to the thread and noticed the 2 truss rod adjustment methods - I can't recall Fender doing anything like that either.

    Without any verification from Fender we can't tell if it's any kind of developmental model/prototype/employee one-off.
     
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    Hippieway Strat-Talker

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    I like guitars, I have guitars, and I am curious about the guitars I do have, but you guys are incredible with the depth of knowledge that is on display here. Nothing to add, just a humble tip of the hat.
     
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    vid1900 Most Honored Senior Member

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    Too bad it was not simply branded a Fender prototype.

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    kevin54 Senior Stratmaster

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    I love this type of thread, reminding me of a Sherlock Holmes investigation looking at the overall picture and then delving into the minutiae of the available evidence.

    Some great detective work gentlemen, but will the case be solved by all you guitar sleuths!

    This sort of post is what makes ST such a worthwhile site to be a member of. :thumb:
     
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    Jimi Lightning Most Honored Senior Member

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    Its a beautiful guitar so partscaster or real, it still sets the bar on how incredible an unpainted natural guitar can look.
    Following this thread with great interest.
     
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    The Ballzz Senior Stratmaster

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    Given how close Riverside (location of store where purchased) and Corona are to each other, it's not hard to imagine a guitar that may have made it out the back door of the factory or even a second that was sold at a discount to an employee? Is that music shop still in business?
    Curious?
    Gene
     
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    rich815 Senior Stratmaster

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    I think it's a funky replacement neck.
     
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    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

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    Any parts on this guitar, if legit Fender, would have come through Fullerton.
    Still, the point is valid.
     
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    The Ballzz Senior Stratmaster

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    Might it be worth the effort for Kyder17 to ask for an appointment and a drive over to the Corona plant to see if someone there may be able to inspect and shed some light on the subject? Heck, it's only a 15-20 drive (each way) and he could do a tour while there, if he has the time. I mean, pics are fine, but a hands on inspection may reveal some unexpected details. There MUST be someone still there who's been with the company awhile who may know SOMETHING helpful.
    Just Sayin'
    Gene
     
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    John C Most Honored Senior Member Silver Member

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    Gene - sadly from what I read Fender purged a lot of people who had been there since the early FMIC days (or earlier) back in early 2015. There was a guy who headed their Customer Services area (Consumer Relations, Customer Service [to dealers], Warranty services, etc.) who used to post a lot on the FMIC forums named Rob Schwartz (his posts and PMs to me are a primary source of my timeline of the late CBS/early FMIC era). He had worked for CBS Fender for about 3 years prior to the sale, then was one of the first "rank and file" employees rehired by FMIC in July 1985. He was laid off in February 2015, a few months shy of 30 years with the firm. There were a bunch of people in that same boat let go at that time

    Hopefully there a few builders left who go back that far, maybe a few who go back to the early CBS era, but they are certainly coming up on retirement now. But maybe not if they purged the "old guard" 2 1/2 years ago.