Where Lies The Quack?

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  1. zozoe

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    Hi all,, , I understand there's lots of variables, but typically, do you get better quack using the North or South coils of your bridge HB, in conjunction with the rwrp middle SC in the #2 position? & the same for which coil would best quack opposite the neck SC, if I had that wiring setup?

    Thanks & stay well~~
     
  2. Thunderhopkins8

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    The quack sound usually comes out of position 2 and 4 with single coils. Give Robert Cray a listen.
     
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    And Robert cray gets that quack because he lowers the middle pickup lower than the neck and bridge. I tried it n it greatly improved the quack just like Roberts
     
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    Yup, 2 & 4 --- ask any quackhead
     
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    Interesting. Regardless on whether he does that or not, you can still get quack without doing that. It might not be like Cray’s, but it’s still quack.
     
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    Quackhead LOL
     
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    Yes
     
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    Thanks all, but allow me to clarify,, In an HSS setup, when in the #2 position, which HB coil offers a better quack when mixed w/the SC middle? North or South? And the same question for which HB Bridge coil would best quack with a Neck SC, #4,,,,I will be wired for that.
    Thanks again~
     
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    zozoe, am I to understand that you can coil split your bridge humbucker, and get either one of the coils, in particular? I'm not sure I've ever heard that before. If so, is this some custom wiring that you've done?

    If the above is true, then I would go to position 2, do the coil split, and then see where you get the best "quack." If you're not sure, listen to position 4 as a reference.

    Edit: I just saw that you posted while I was typing. Keep in mind that the neck and bridge pickups won't give you that "quack." The middle pickup with the neck, or bridge is where the quack comes from.
     
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    Yeah, a standard & widely used HSS setup is to have the 'auto-tap' in position 2, typically the North coil from the HB, along with the rwrp SC middle p/u,,, that's the common way to achieve that #2 quack,,,!! & the same thing goes for the rwrp middle & neck SC's in the #4 position, though it's a darker quack...
    Any double coil HB w/4 wires, can do that, & how you wire it, determines whether the North or South coil is selected to go w/the middle pup, and there's a different degree of quack between the two. I'm simply taking a pole of what most folks notice & prefer.
     
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    Also, I just made a guard ala Robbie Robertson, a SD Little78 (same as 2 SCs in series in the bridge position, like he uses) in the bridge & a SC in the neck, 3way switch, with the middle sound being the North SD coil & the SC neck,,, very funky sound!! A great bridge sound & a great neck tone to boot!
     
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    Agreed! My middle pup is only about 1/8” above the guard.
     
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    It's the choice or preference of coils, either North or South, that blend better with the middle or the neck for max quack,,,
    Thnx
     
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    LIVINGMYDREAM,, Yeah, it's called an
    auto-tap, so when you switch to the & #2, you get only one of the HB coils along with the rwrp middle, & you're there! In reality, a HB is simply two single coils, side by side, in series w/each other, & as long as your HB has 4 wires, (I've yet to see a double coil HB w/o them) you can wire your guitar accordingly. It's like having 2 guitars in one; a rocker w/the HB, but all the other positions are all Fender-like!! Be well~
     
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    I have a 2 wire humbucker. 3 of them, actually. The bundle has 2 wires in it. That's it. Yes, it's got the coil-to-coil connection tucked somewhere between the coils but that doesn't count.
     
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    Quackhead sounds like Elmer Fudd saying Crackhead lol
     
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    Yeah, I just found that out today on Fernandes Sustainer has a 2 wire HB...I'm gonna swap out the middle pup first cuz it's dull, then I'll figure how to get a 4 wire HB, probably needs a push/pull......
    I love learning something new, that's why I don't get cocky!! Thnx,,,,
     

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    I have an awesome little switch installed on my '98 American Std. that turns the neck pick up on giving me 2 extra pup configurations. I do find that the bridge and neck pups alone together sound somewhat quacky but more of an out-of-phase nasally tone. Having all three pick ups on is 'Super Duper' quack, quack...woddle, woddle.:)

     
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    Ah, thank you for clearing that up. I had an SSH Strat that I had gotten nearly 15 years ago. It was an amazing guitar, but it was certainly before they started coil tapping, and my current Strats are all SSS. I feel so left behind! ;)