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  1. Heavyriff

    Heavyriff Strat-O-Master

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    For those who gig is it harder to get a drummer that can keep time or a singer that can sing in tune?
     
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    Drummer is harder to find in my experience
     
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    Drummer is hardest, followed by bass. Vocalists are a dime a dozen, in tune or otherwise.

    IMHO
     
  4. Heavyriff

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    Singer must for the most part sing in tune.
     
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    Drummer. There are a million drummers out there who don't know the first thing about keeping time or playing the correct beats/changes/fills to cover songs etc.....

    A mediocre singer can find a place in a lot of bar bands.....not so for a drummer.....
     
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    Keys have to be up there in hard to find?
     
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    Drummer but I’ve heard some dreadful- out of tune singers too.
    The biggest issue with drummers I’ve had is when a drummer overplays so much (A fill on EVERY measure) that they get lost in their own overplaying that they miss the one. It’s no longer music but mud.
     
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    "Vocalists are a dime a dozen"

    As are guitar players.
     
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    I’ve only worked with good drummers. But the singers on the other hand have been 50/50. The bad ones have stayed because they are somebody’s girlfriend/boyfriend.
     
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    I have never had a problem finding a good drummer. Only found 2 good singers - one was a diva and buzz kill so we dumped her and the other was unreliable and just disappeared one day. So I sang poorly and played guitar, but we had lots of fun. My guitar player formed another band with some really good musicians to gig regularly and try to make some money and ended up with the same girl singer. They did about 5 gigs and broke up because she demanded they not allow smoking in the bar or only play places that were non-smoking because it affected her voice.
     
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    A guitar player that will:
    1. attend practice
    2. show up

    What, exactly, does "sing in tune" mean?
     
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    When I was young and jammed with different people and played strictly rock sung by males, it was hard to find a good male rock singer and drummers were good enough. As I’ve gotten older I’ve played with good singers, often female, and don’t really know any drummers anymore.
     
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    Really good singers - singers I would hire for studio work - are rare as blue pearls. If I auditioned 20 guys who sang for bands, one would be good enough. Decent drummers were easier, but a great drummer is rare.
     
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    I was so desperate for a drummer that I had a boy child and waited a few years. It worked OK for a awhile but then he caught a bad case of Jazz and chronic Prog, got a car and a girlfriend. I don't have time to make another one.
     
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    When i was a kid i had a bull**** band and my friend Mike was on drums. Because he was the only kid i knew who had a drum set. He was so bad....timing was so bad that i thought he was screwing with us....sadly no he wasn't.
     
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    I’m a guitar player, but to me the drummer and bass player that click , makes the band. With that you can make the rest work out.
     
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    Absolutely true.
     
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    I always spec "must be able to play with MIDI", that scares away the drummers that can't keep time
     
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    I have no use for singers...unless its Johnette Napolitano.

    The hardest thing to find is the complete band...or the band that completes you.
     
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    Drummers make the band sound good, singers make the band. A decent drummer will get people on a dance floor, a good singer will make people actually listen to the song.
     
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