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Whose happy with their Epiphone Les Paul?

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  1. Fenderguy710

    Fenderguy710 Strat-Talk Member

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    I've owned many Strats and a few Teles, all standard single coil configuration. I did own a Gibson SG special once. I'm looking to add something with humbuckers. I've heard some good things about the Epiphone Les Paul, but most say the pickups are pretty cheap and muddy sounding.
     
  2. Zog62

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    Hi !

    I have a beautiful Epiphone Les Paul Tribute 1960 in black cherry.
    The pickups on this model are two Gibson Classic 57 and can be split.
    The neck is a slim one, not as big as usual on a Les Paul.
    She was delivered in a case and equiped with strap locks.
    No updgrade needed IMO, I think this model is very similar to a Gibson, just really cheaper (I bought mine 500€).
     
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  3. Michael919

    Michael919 Senior Stratmaster

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    Epiphones LP's are nice, especially if you are fine with the headstock shape and the name on it. The new, open book, Kalamazoo headstocks are a little closer to Gibson's.

    Give a nice Epiphone a good setup, including a light fret level and maybe $200-300 electronics upgrade (optional, and not needed on the Tribute Zog has) and you will be 95% (or more) there for a lot less money than a similar Gibson.
     
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    Jimi Lightning Most Honored Senior Member

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    Very Happy. I picked up a 2014 LP100 and love it. My better half bought me “spare” one ( same model) new from the shop and it was a completely Different animal. Subtle changes in the body, weighed less and I didn’t get on with it. I managed to track down another 2014 and the same magic as my other one was there.
    I like that model/year enough to have 2 of them so I am a fan.
     
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  5. jvin248

    jvin248 Senior Stratmaster

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    I have both Gibson and Epiphone models and the Epiphones get all the play time.

    2015 models and newer they improved stock pickup tones.

    If you're worried about muddy pickups, do these mods, test and go to the next deeper change:

    -lower the pickups to the trim rings
    -raise the screw poles 1/8th inch
    -swap the volume pot(s) for ones that measure at the high end of their spec (pots have a 20% tolerance range and it matters)
    -use the next lower common capacitor value (if loaded with 0.047uF then go to 0.033uF)
    -use the removed cap in series with the muddy pickup's hot lead.
    -replace pickup(s) and go back to the top of the list

    The controls system is as important to the tone as the pickups, they are a system, and the controls load the pickups even when 'dimed'. You can work at swapping $20 of parts or $200 pickups trying to find a pair that match well with the $20 of pots and caps. Once I figured that out I rarely swap pickups anymore unless I'm making a pickup style shift like humbuckers to P90s.

    The 2020 Epiphones look like a big move closer to Gibson styling but the older Epiphones can be really good too. My 2005 MIC Epiphone G-400 SG (only mod is the 0.033uF tone cap swap) plays as easy and sounds as good as my vintage Gibson SG. Plus I don't worry about the Epiphone's headstock snapping off from minor accidents like the Gibson (oh how I wish they'd redesign that fragile contraption).

    Another option in similar price points and styles: PRS SE models. If you want LP tones go for 22 frets or SG then go for 24 frets due to pickup placements from the extra frets.

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    Stratwrangler Senior Stratmaster

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    Have a look at the new inspired by range some very nice guitars and have the nicer headstock shape .
     
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    I had an Epi standard pro for a while. I sold it, after I realized that the slim taper “D” shaped neck just wasn’t for me. Other than that, it was a nice guitar. The setup, and intonation was the worst I’d ever seen on a new guitar though. (Easy fix)
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  8. Groovey

    Groovey Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I'd stay away from the Epiphone Special. The one I have feels like a toy. Other than that the Epiphones are great. I have 3.
     
  9. nadzab

    nadzab Peace & Love, my Brothers & Sisters... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Not sure what the stock pickup options are in the Epi LPs, but I just got a Sheraton II Pro, and the Probuckers in that sound fantastic...I like them better than the Burstbuckers in my 2016 Gibson LP Standard (which are being replaced as soon as DiMarzio picks up production again). I'm sure the Sherry's construction affects the sound as well, but the Probuckers are really nice.
     
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    EC Strat-boy Senior Stratmaster

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    3E128AF7-3E86-4716-BBA3-7114E0C9150F.jpeg Really enjoyed my Epi LP Goldtop while I had it. Was sharp looking sounded and played great. I upgraded the pickups to Gibson 57’s and tone pots / cap + bridge. Miss it now
     
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    I'm happy with both of mine. I have a Studio and an ES Pro semi-hollow body.

    The ES is currently my #1, although potential competition is on the way in a week or so. It's got a Probucker II and a III, with coil splitting on both. Aside from being an aesthetically gorgeous instrument the tonal varieties are amazing.

    The Studio is a bit heavier but very playable.
     
  12. Fenderguy710

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    That's a lot of great information, thanks. The other guitar I've been looking at is the PRS SE, or the Santana SE.
     
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    I'll add that the pickups in my Epi G-400 Pro SG model are a step above. These Pro versions have (OEM) AlNico V magnets. A combination of features made the Pro models a better guitar. It is in the rotation, often. Go Les Paul Pro!
     
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    If I was looking for a mainstream two humbucker solid body, I would take the PRS SE over an Epi LP instantly. Have owned both, and also high end LPs and PRSs. The PRSs are a significant amount better in my opinion.
     
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    I have an Epi LP, and it's fantastic! Granted, its not a run of the mill Epi; It's a ltd edition Slash sig model.

    It is made with a full thickness solid maple cap, nickel plated hardware, 19:1 vintage style tuners, a long neck tenon, special D shaped neck profile, orange drop caps, and Seymour Duncan Slash signature pickups.

    However, it is still an Epiphone, and I can say without doubt that the overall quality is very good. As a matter of fact, this is one of the best sounding guitars I have ever had, and it plays very smoothly.

    I have 3 guitars that I will never get rid of, and this is one of them.
     
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  16. Malurkey

    Malurkey Senior Stratmaster

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    I once had an Epiphone LP on loan for a while, it was great! Not exactly sure which model, though. :thumb:
     
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    I've always been tempted to buy an Epi Les Paul. I've never been tempted to buy a Gibson & had the chance to buy a killer Traditional for $800 (guy needed money for Xmas). I've owned an Gibson SG and wasn't too impressed... But Epis look nice and always seem to have a good price on them...
     
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    DeMelo Senior Stratmaster

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    I owned an Epi Les Paul Standard years ago. It was a good guitar, there’s no denying it, and I jammed with bands with it.

    Here’s a picture I kept:

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    But it did have the limitations people often say about Epiphones. Neck wasn’t too comfortable. The hardware was VERY cheap. Even the screws were rusty a few months after I bought it. Pots and wiring were only ok. Pickups were indeed muddy. I went down the adjusting the polepieces road just to find out that the pole pieces were basically held in place by the wax inside the pickups, they didn’t actually screw into the bobbin, you could literally push them down. It was weird.

    I liked the overall tone I got from it but the day I picked up a Gibson with classic 57s and played both side by side through the same rig, I took notice of what I was missing.

    Anyway a couple of months later I became a strat player and sold it for that reason. Sometimes I miss it. It looked very cool.

    Can’t say much about the modern ones.

    Raw truth is that Gibson and Epi are not as close to each other as MIA and MIM Fenders.

    Edit: some models, like the Elitist, Tribute plus and signature models are superior in most aspects.

    Btw I still might buy an Epiphone but it’ll most probably be a Casino. That’s one Epi model I really like and admire!
     
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    I had an Epiphone LP decades ago and while it was super nice guitar after playing it for a while my fret hand thumb would kill me, even after having it professionally set up. There was just something about that chunky rounded neck which I couldn't physically bond with.
    My '99 Gibson LPDC and both my Epi '66 SG Ltd. Editions have slim taper necks and they don't hurt my fret hand even after hours of playing; if that Epi LP had have had a comfortable neck it would still be here.
    I haven't played an Epi LP since but am still curious about them because it was a super nice guitar that didn't need any mods in the electronics or hardware. Good luck.
     
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    ryunker Senior Stratmaster

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    I have two, love them both. A traditional pro in heritage burst and a studio goth in satin black.

    I have found zero reasons to mod either of them. Electronics in both are fantastic. The studio are ceramic, the traditional pro are alnico something (memory sucks).

    I have three gibsons here, but none in a les paul. I have no reason or desire to get a gibson LP, the epiphones are really tgat good.
     
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