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Why are 50's Martins less expensive than 50's Fenders?

Discussion in 'Acoustic Soundboard' started by mikej89, Sep 21, 2020.

  1. mikej89

    mikej89 Senior Stratmaster

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    I mean doesn't it seem like it would be the other way around when you think about it? An original 50's Martin is 1/3 as much or even less than an original pre-CBS Strat or Tele, why? More produced?
     
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    Martin collectors are all going for pre-war stuff, which is much more valuable. 50s Martin is like 70s Fender; it's 20 years too new to fetch top dollar.
     
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    Rock n Roll baby!!

    To have an (crazy) expensive Martin, you need to go pre WW II. Suppose to be the wood is different pre WW ll.
     
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    Because 50s Fenders are super-old and 50s Martin's are just old. Maybe buy up some of those Martins and hold onto them until they become hot.
     
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    Which would you rather have? THAT'S why. ;)
     
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    Supply and demand. As others have said, prewar is where it's at for Martin collectibility whereas with Fender it's pre-CBS.
     
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    They used Brazillian rosewood up until 1969. You can't even get that anymore unless you spend a fortune.
     
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    True. 1969. For Rosewood swap.

    But it was pre war Adirondack Spruce that brought the tone. (Supossedly, who am I to say?) Post war Sitka Spruce is not as desireable.

    All I can tell ya is mom bought dad a '46 upon his return from the war. We "missed it by... that much"
     
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    Ahyup and yup.
     
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    The transition from Braz to East Indian happened in chunks. Plenty of great sounding East Indian out there. Brazilian is a bit cork sniffy imho.

    The transition from Adirondack to Sitka also happened in chunks, not all at once. Martin charges outrageous sums for Addy.

    Plenty of great sounding Sitka tops out there too. Cork sniffing may apply for some.

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    The '46 is sweet.

    Lmao at your final icon. Me too!!
     
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    Maybe in the case of Fender its harder for a genuine artifact to survive? I mean you cant unbolt a martin neck... or mix and match all the parts, etc..
     
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    I have a large collection of them. The slut was a custom modified myself.

    NOT Emoticons, like stupid phones, but classic smilies! Love those ...
     
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    Haha. Nice. Nobody has a Martincaster.
     
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    All the best acoustics with glued in necks will need a reset during their life. Taylor solved that problem well.

    Martin fan for life.
     
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    People have done neck swaps. Very limited obviously, but they are out there.

    I did not like the plain black boring pickguard on my 12 string, so I put a different one on. Gold tuners and bone bridge pins with little faux tortoise dots too.

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    Ever think of converting that to a six-string?
     
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    I was serious though. Ive read too many threads here and elsewhere with people trying to verify the authenticity of an old strat. "Well, the body looks correct, for the time frame but..." etc, etc. Seems much harder for a guitar like a strat to remain intact, unmolested. That would seem to definitely drive up the price of an all original one...
     
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    Yes, I too have read many instances of where it was difficult to tell what was original and not. I love the ability to build my own easily. Parts for a new one were just ordered... wiggle.gif
     
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    What you say has merit.

    I still say the price of pre CBS Strats is due to the rise of Rock n Roll.
     
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