Why can't I like 8-Hole Single Ply Pickguards?

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  1. Wrighty

    Wrighty Most Honored Senior Member

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    Forget that, forgive my ignorance, boy how stupid am I? That’s gonna completely ruin the tone.
     
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    Wow I had no idea this was a thing. I'd probably consider it if I ever buy a Player series.
     
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    myredstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    Why can't I like 8-Hole Single Ply Pickguards?

    because there are already enough 8holes in the world today:thumbd:
     
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    ZZDoc Strat-Talker

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    Having problems with eight holes and single-ply? That's because you didn't buy your first Strat in 1958.
     
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    StratUp Senior Stratmaster

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    Both the number of holes and plies should be part of the overall aesthetic design. Some guitars can deal with the higher level of action (no pun) and look great. Others look much better with fewer screws and single ply plain jane mode. It's an overall thing.
     
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    Intune Senior Stratmaster

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    It’s either 50’s or 60’s aesthetics for me. You can’t put a 60’s pickguard on a 50’s inspired Strat and same with a 50’s pickguard on a 60’s Strat. You can but it’s just wrong.

    Stick to modern gear if thin cheap limited screw hole pickguards are hard on the eyes. It will leave more of the cool 50’s junk on the wall or in the used market for me :D
     
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    datsunrobbie Strat-Talk Member

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    My favorite strats are my 2002 CIJ Aerodynes. Zero pickguard holes because they have no pickguards.
     
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    Textele Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Unless the single-ply starts to warp bad, I'm not sure I'd get to worried.

    Had an early 90's 57 reissue with a single ply that did not always sit perfectly flush, but in never fell off either.

    There is a ton of stuff I never even gave a second thought of before the internet and said forums.

    Admittedly sent me down a lot of rabbit holes, and got kind of crazy about minutia for a while. And went through an embarrassing amount of perfectly great guitars. Many I miss actually.

    I finally escaped The Labyrinth of the Mighty Rabbit, and started playing more.

    Don't mean to sound sarcastic, I fully understand.

    @rlongnt you got a great guitar, congrats, may it bring you many years of fun!
     
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    Jimbo99 Strat-Talk Member

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    I also prefer the 3 & 4 ply pickguards myself. But I also appreciate that when you're after a Telecaster that is supposed to be the period correct Blackguard reissue as vintage period correct, a single ply black is that pickguard. The 8 hole is a period correct vintage thing too. I have a Squier Bullet Strat with a unique 10 hole that I can't find anything that fits it. I'm going to have to get a blank & make one from scratch. Thing is the blank material costs just as much or more than one that's pre-cut & finished. And then there's the bakelite vs modern ABS plastic material. Bakelite is a highly toxic plastic so what can you do there ? Uggghhhh, can't win for losing.

    https://www.guitarworld.com/feature...gy-behind-fenders-rare-blackguard-telecasters
     
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    Textele Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    They don't notice 99.99 percent of what we talk about around here.

    They just want to groove. Hit 'em hard! :thumb:
     
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    Thanks, I sincerely needed that smile today :) (it's truly been "one of those weeks for me")
     
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    11 holes holds the guard flatter against guitar. Hate it when guard starts to rise beside the pickup!!!
     
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    Mint green has it's place
     
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    The holes started out meaning a single ply 57 style guard, but now it's just cheaper.
     
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    Because it's ugly?
     
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    the single ply guard has always looked cheap to me i don't care how many holes.

    but it looks correct on 50's teles for some reason if it is black.
     
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    YohanTheMan Strat-Talker

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    I don't think I've ever agreed with anything more in my life. When I just had my Japanese Tele, with modern tuners, I didn't think much of it, but when I got my Vintera Road worn Strat, my first thought was " why the hell would you ever change the tuners" I mean vintage tuners are practically beautiful compared to modern tuners. It's purely aesthetic and neurotic on my part, but that along with pale maple necks, I don't get or like.
     
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    Outer Limits had an episode about this. Without ugly there can be no beauty but in the end " The best part, I look just like you "
     
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    When I first got my Classic Player 50 Strat, my first thought was to change the 8-hole single ply pickguard to a 3-ply 11-hole . Well I procrastinated, and months went by, and now several years later I'm oblivious to the differences between the two and it looks "right" on that guitar, as do the 3-ply lam's on me other two Strats. But it does make the pickups look like they are adjusted higher than normal because the 1-ply is thinner than the 3-ply so they protrude further above the 1-ply pickguard when properly adjusted.
     
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