Why didn’t the LSR roller nut stick around?

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  1. Wrighty

    Wrighty Most Honored Senior Member

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    So, why, may I ask, have you only one Strat out of three fitted with one?
     
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    Dreamdancer Senior Stratmaster

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    Its a fine example of a thing that works beautifully but doesnt really look that great or to put it more precise....it doesnt look "traditional" at all...so it is usually dismissed as an option.
     
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    It's only on the strat that came with it originally. To put it on the others would require faffing about with the nut slot, and I really can't be bothered doing that! The LSR-equipped strat has two humbuckers and I use that for metal stuff that requires wiggle stick use. I use the other strats for other types of music.
     
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    I'd be interested in an LSR nut...
    it might be tricky if the radius is not 9.5", but I'm sure they have different versions
     
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    Ummm...because they're ugly...LSR and Wilkinson.
     
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    Yup pretty amazing. The tuners have rusted in place, I haven’t touched them since 1993.
     
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    A roller nut seems like a good idea to me. The question is, is it enough of an improvement to be worth it?

    An LSR nut certainly costs more to manufacture than one made of ABS plastic. IDK if we can really tell how much they cost based on the retail price (which often includes shipping). Fender branded LSR nuts retail for $28.50; unbranded ABS nuts retail for $4.55 for a 5-pack. And installation of an LSR nut is more complex--the neck has to have two screw holes bored and somebody has to drive in those two little screws. That could add 1/4 hr of labor cost to a guitar. So the cost to Fender to install LSR nuts could be as much as $35 per guitar. It's less than that, of course--Fender won't be paying retail for its own parts. Still, an extra $20 per guitar seems plausible.

    If the LSR nut was a $20 option, would people choose it? Some would, for sure. But many would not.
     
  8. Believer7713

    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    They are only made wit a 9.5 radius. Though is has been said that you can go up to 12 inch radius neck wothout any noticible playing issues. The one I have on my Telespringer isnon a wormoth 10-16 compound neck and works beautifully. I have a coue.other guitars I would love to put them on but they have flatter fretboards.
     
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    I've had an LSR on two Strat partscasters. I sold one of the necks, partly because of the LSR. I would let go of the other, too, except that it's got a rare black-painted headstock to match the rest of the guitar. It's OK and indeed there are never any tuning issues at the nut, but at least on both of the examples I've had, the LSR, largely because of the lesser break angle, greatly increased sympathetic ring behind the nut. I had to use foam or something (anything but a scrunchy!) to mute the strings beyond the nut to avoid hearing irritating high-pitches ringing out, especially when using any level of gain. For an obvious example, think of that comping on 'Pride and Joy' with a dissonant high pitched ring after every scratch. I couldn't stand it.
     
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    The Wilkinson was the best. I have two old Strat Plus guitars with them and they NEVER have tuning problems. I never got on with the LSR roller nut.
     
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    Thanks, just curious. I, too, am of the ‘if it ain’t broke leave it original’ school.
     
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    I have an LSR on my Contemporary Strat and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a 9.5" radius.
     
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    Contemporary models typically have 12 inch radii. The LSR will work on it but it will not match the fretboard. I am putting one on a 12" radius this week too. I wouldn't go any flatter than 12 inch on the fretboard, though, as it will start getting into intonation and playability issues.
     
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    My 2005 American Deluxe came with, like it, no issues. Like not worrying about nut slots width when I change string size.
     
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    Must be why i prefer Strat plus :)

    And speaking of nuts, what about compensated nuts whats the deal with those ?
     
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    I like mine. One thing to consider is that you can't put 11s through it. 10s are the max.
     
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    I have two Plus Deluxe Strats, both with the early Wilkinson. They do their job, 30 years on (give or take).

    While I wouldn't take a chisel to a guitar without one, I wouldn't take wood filler to those with, either.

    I like them, they hold a place dear to me ~ at a quick glance, I can pretty much nail your guitar's age/model down to a couple of years. Man, I miss those early 90's......good times.
     
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    I really like the LSR roller nut on my ‘95 Strat Plus.
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    from 1996 to present, no ball bearings have fallen out.
     
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    I had a friend with a strat plus who had the LSR. It gave him no end of problems. Spurious buzzing, tuning issues, etc. i watched him fight that nut at every rehearsal. I would NEVER own one.