Why is the 5-way switch numbering the opposite of Tone knobs numbering?

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    dscottyg Strat-O-Master

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    Switch position 1 is for bridge, 3 is for middle, and 5 is for neck? The positions are numbered from bottom, going up and left to right (when looking at the body straight on). Meanwhile the Tone knobs are numbered from top right (knob 1) to bottom left (knob 2). Why are they opposite? Just curious.
     
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    Circular notation, start at bottom with switch, go up and then back down with knobs
     
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    Go play your guitar.
     
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    soulman969 Most Honored Senior Member

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    What makes someone even think about stuff like this? :confused:

    If you own a Strat you already know how everything works.
     
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    because it had to be something.. If it was any other arrangement, there would be a thread "Why is . . ."

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    Switch position numbering is a Fender standard. I think knob numbering is just something we made up. That, plus it doesn't matter.
     
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    Is there a Tone#1 and a Tone #2?

    I think there's just the Tone that affects this pickup and the Tone that affects those pickups.
     
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    Tone Deaf Most Honored Senior Member Platinum Supporting Member

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    Two different design engineering groups. That’s why.

    As Frank Zappa said, “Shut up and…..”.:)
     
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    guitarchaeologist El Salado Guitartist Silver Member

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    We've seen lots of disagreement here on the forum about which is position 1. Personally, I have never seen anything from Fender that designates position 1 (that does not mean it doesn't exist, only that I have not seen it!).
    That being said, consider that your idea of position 1 is not law, and the position1 was (although possibly never labeled) actually the neck pickup. Then the switch would move left to right (for the player) from 1 to 3/5, the knobs would increase in a clockwise direction, and tone 1 would be left of tone 2... which all makes sense, right?
    Just a thought to keep you entertained for a few minutes. :D:D:D
     
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    Because I said so.
     
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    Because Leo said so.

    Next question?
     
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    Oh really now.

    Ok then, why do the strings go up and down instead of side to side?
     
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    Pickup selector position numbering
     
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    Good grief. @dscottyg you really need to find yourself a hobby, a pet or maybe even a girlfriend...
     
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    guitarchaeologist El Salado Guitartist Silver Member

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    I should have been more clear. I haven't seen anything from the early days (closer to the design time) that designates a position 1.
    The examples you show are good, and clear (thank you), but much more modern, and open to common accepted use instead of defining (if that makes sense outside of my own head).
     
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    I think bridge was always pickup 1 for fender, think about an esquire, only 1 pickup, it’s in the bridge so pickup 1 would be bridge.
     
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    Don't ask me, I never even understood why they called them "front" or "back" pickups.
     
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