Why is the 5-way switch numbering the opposite of Tone knobs numbering?

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  1. guitarface

    guitarface Most Honored Senior Member

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    That’s one of the dumber things out there.
     
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    Chont Most Honored Senior Member

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    why is that little doodad on the headstock called a "String Tree"? ... there's no leaves on it.
     
  3. Believer7713

    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    I don't know why the positions are numbered that way but the switch tip points to the direction of the pickup being used.

    Maybe it's because the pickups are shaped similarly to rungs on a ladder and when you stand the guitar it is ladder-esque. The knobs are numbered by which one you reach first when playing.

    I know, I know...but my answer only makes as much sense as the question. :whistling::D:p
     
  4. LawFlow

    LawFlow Strat-Talker

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    I didn't know there were numbers for these things. My volume and tone knobs show 1 thru 10. Why is that? ;)
     
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    Boubou Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    Whats worst is that up the neck is down the neck and down the neck is up the neck
     
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    Now, that makes sense to me in terms of pitch..."up" the neck is where the higher notes are..."down" is where the lower pitches are.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    You could always wire it backwards to keep things interesting.
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    I have on accident a couple times. Changed them right away though.

    As a side though..If I started doing that It would be a great deterrent to keep people from wanting to play my guitar. Kind of like when I switched the gear shifter on my race bike to the Moto GP style shifting for the track. Instead of 1 down and 5 up it was 1 up and 5 down.
     
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  9. FrieAsABird

    FrieAsABird Senior Stratmaster

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    Who even decided to name the strings E, A, D, G, B and E? How do I know which E to put where? When will these brain damaging threads ever end?
     
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    Mike Furlong Strat-O-Master

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    Because that way they give better tone. B******X I've mentioned that dreaded word again!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:
     
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  11. Hydr0

    Hydr0 Senior Stratmaster

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    Because the knob next to the volume is actually tone 2…mind blown haha

    now…

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    That goes way back to Middle Ages/Renaissance times when the lute and 4 or 5 string guitars were in use.

    Naming notes goes back even further, in Western music, to the times when early Gregorian chant was being developed and the notes of the scale were given their first names, ut-re-mi-fa etc. which is now do-re-mi-fa etc.

    https://choralnet.org/2020/05/off-the-podium-the-legacy-of-guido-darezzo/

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    The clef signs used today, the G, C and F clefs, are moveable, although today we mostly see them in one location on the staff.

    The treble clef fixes the note G and thus names all the other notes based on that.

    There's lots more to it, and the USA is one place where the A B C etc. note names are used. In Germany, H is B natural, B is Bb.

    Many other countries such as Italy and Spain still use the do-re-mi note names.
     
  13. FrieAsABird

    FrieAsABird Senior Stratmaster

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    Very nice, I knew some of that, but its always good to learn something new :) Still, who cares about the way Fender numbers their knobs and switches that much? :eek:
     
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    CalicoSkies Most Honored Senior Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The pickup numbers are not actually labeled anywhere on a Strat, so I think you can refer to them any way you want. It seems like an unofficial standard. Well, maybe not a standard, but maybe more like a guideline.

    Who is "they"? I don't know anyone who has called them "front" or "back" pickups.
     
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    People do it. Believe me. Maybe you’re not watching enough guitar crap on YouTube.
     
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    Yup. The only thought that ever crosses my mind is why did Leo build the Strat to begin with when the Tele was the most perfect guitar ever designed? :whistling: :D
     
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    Cuz Jimi played his upside down & that's the way it worked
     
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    I have my Strats modified so when the lever is up it's #1.
     
  19. dscottyg

    dscottyg Strat-O-Master

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    They are referred to as Tone 1 and Tone 2 in videos and specs on sellers’ websites.
     
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    ibdrkn1 Senior Stratmaster

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    If it isn't referred to that way by Fender then it's just silly people saying silly things. If Fender also says it then it just is what it is &....... it still doesn't affect me.