Why RWRP on noiseless SCs?

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  1. Pinstripe

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    I thought making the middle pickup rwrp yielded quiet notch positions.
    Having noiseless pickups does the same for all positions.
    So why is there still an rwrp middle pickup in the set of noiseless pickups I'm looking at (Duncan STK-S4)?
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    It gives a different kind of quack in the 2 and 4 positions.
     
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    Oh.
    Quackier than non-RWRP?
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    I believe so.
     
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    what? That’s crazy.
     
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    Yeah....if anything non RWRP gives more quack, this has always been my experience....
     
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  7. SurfsUp

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    Valid question! I've thought of this too, for example Lace offers it's Silver Sensor RWRP too, which is a popular middle pickup. I've wondered if it is an option for those who just havta say that their pickups are well, lets say 'authentic'?
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    My RWRP guitars sound different in 2 and 4 than my non RWRP. A little more out of phase sounding maybe? But it is definitely a different sounding quack.
     
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    different guitars sound different, in other news sky found to be blue
     
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    One purpose for RWRP on a stacked humbucker is coil-splitting.

    I’ve never used Lace Sensors, but I believe they are hum-reducing, not hum-cancelling, so there may still be room for further improvement with RWRP.

    I haven’t done a controlled experiment on how much RWRP affects quack.

    I used to dismiss it as cork sniffing. Then I realized how close the ferrous trem springs are to the bottom of the bridge pickup and maybe the middle pickup. That could affect the interaction between pickups. Maybe RWRP affects string vibration; I don’t know.

    I’m not making any claims, just suggesting a possible explanation for what others have observed.
     
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    Yes, it is rw/rp for splitting and combining with other split stacks. Honestly, it doesn't make much of a difference to do that. I'd just keep the full stacks active in 2 & 4 and not bother splitting them.
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    Yep and grass is green. I can play that too.

    Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
     
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    You can play grass? Nice! What‘cha play on it - bluegrass?
    Sorry, I‘ll show myself out :oops:
     
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    It seems like I read that somewhere. I am having STK-S4s put in the neck and middle positions on one of my Strats this week. The bridge HB is a 59/Custom Hybrid. When ordering the pickups, the tech recommended a RWRP middle, mostly for flexibility in the future if I ever decide to add coil splitting to this guitar.

    I'm really excited to get it back!
     
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    The classic stacks are fabulous. You’ll really enjoy the 50’s tone they give you.
     
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    Love to hear your thoughts when you get it back.
     
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    Lace offered the Silver RW/RP because Sensors are only noise reduced, and not totally hum free. With this pup however the 2 and 4 positions are 100% noiseless, although this also true of single coils with a RW/RP middle pup. I will add that the Sensors are a huge improvement hum wise over regular single coils in the 1,3,5 positions.
     
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    Ah yes, of course.....And I agree with your statement regarding the improvement. I love mine!