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Why the Blues Junior hate?

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by nederemer, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. nederemer

    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    Why is there so much hate on the blues junior? I have the v3 lacquered tweed version and it sounds great. I think this is one of the best amps I have ever owned. I have got great sounds out of it every time I have played it. In fact I find myself playing it more than the twin and questioning even keeping it.

    So what is the deal?? Is it just I don't have good taste?? lol.
     
  2. Gevalt

    Gevalt Strat-Talker

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    Is this a troll post?
    If there is "hate" that exists, and you know about it, how did you miss "teh haterz" reasons?
    Why do people like misusing such an ugly word?
     
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  3. nederemer

    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    Sorry, what impression did I give you that I was 13?

    Anyway, moving on now, unless you have a comment relating to the distaste that seems general for the blues junior. Please, don't waste my time commenting.

    And, your post was much more of a troll post than mine.
     
  4. fezz parka

    fezz parka Making a record.... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I don't like them or the Blues Deluxe/Deville or the hot rod series. The tweed ones are sheep in wolf's clothing. They have IC driven and recovered reverb and silly swiss army knife drive circuits.

    I don't hate them. I just don't have any use for them.
     
  5. Antstrat

    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    I like mine, think it's a great lil amp :)
     
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  6. nederemer

    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    Me too. I don't care so much about the non tube driven reverb. TBH I think the reverb on it sounds just as good as the twin. I like the stinging bite this amp has though, a lot.
     
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    guitarface Most Honored Senior Member

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    I think they're pretty good but I think the dislike comes from them having el84 tubes which aren't really the classic fender tube sound. Whatever. Ears tell the story.
     
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    When you compare the Blue Junior amps before the IV model to any of Fender's 6V6 or 6L6 offerings, they weren't particularly exciting in terms of features or sound.

    Sure, they were sufficiently capable for small to medium-sized gigs, but in terms of 'that fender sound' I think most people would think Tweed or Blackface.

    So in short, I think there is less 'hate' and more of being partial towards other amps in Fender's product line that give people the sound they are looking for.

    That's not to say the BJr is a bad or sub-par amp. I am really digging the BJr IV and I'll definitely add it to the lineup one day.
     
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    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    Don't know much about circuitry
    Don't know much biology
    Don't know much about a IC verb
    Don't know much about the French I took

    But I do know that I love you
    And I know that if you love me, too
    What a wonderful world this would be

    Slapped a Celestion G12-65 and a 12AY7 in V1 in my Blues Deluxe and it gives me wood.

    Would like to try one of those 5e amps someday, seeds have been planted.
     
  10. nederemer

    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    Well put. Maybe I am just discovering I prefer a low gain el34 based amp rather than an ultra clean 6l6 amp.
     
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    I had a tweed blues deluxe or whatever and it wasn’t a good amp at all. Just never sounded right to me.
     
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    If you plug in, turn on, turn knobs and are happy with the result there is no need for discussion.
     
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    Quoting myself for fun and to add: I don't give a ballistic turd from a flying monkey what anyone else thinks about my rig(s).
     
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    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

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    I don't hate BJs, but I don't care for the way they mount the pots and tube sockets directly to the circuit board so that bumping a knob or changing a tube stresses the board. I don't know if all the iterations of the BJ do this, but I know the later ones do. I don't think a $600 amp should be built that way.

    A friend of mine bought a Monoprice 15 a couple months ago, and sold his Blues Junior shortly after. I asked him why, and his answer was that the MP15 is a "tone monster" and just sounded better. (not my words)

    I've heard BJ demos on YouTube and they sound very good. If a person owns one and likes it, that's all that really matters.
     
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    I like mine. No complaints.
     
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    heltershelton BANNED Strat-Talk Supporter

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    it's been awhile since I've played through one.....but when I did I remember it being nothing to write home about. I don't know....maybe if I played through one now it's possible I would like it more.
     
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    Don’t know, I plug into one I get zero kick out of it... seems like a totally sterile amp to me... no hate tho, just couldn’t get along with it.
     
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    Mine was, sadly, a disappointment, but it was first gen. They seem somewhat improved, but I think there are still better choices.
     
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    I've had to use them as venue supplied backline. I made them sound fine. Would I own one? Hell no.
     
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    fezz parka Making a record.... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    You mean el84. Now if a Blooze junior had el34's...that would be interesting.
     
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