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Why the Blues Junior hate?

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by nederemer, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. Nate D

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    I kind of want to get a Pro Jr, but I think I’m going to get a Tweed Champ instead.
     
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    I play a Pro Jr. with a 12" cab and it sounds more robust, or less artificial to me than the Blues Jr. Simpler too, 2 knobs......
     
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    I have one with all the BillM mods. It’s OK. It’s the one I grab if I’m going to be someplace where my stuff might get stolen.
     
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  5. rafasounds

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    The Fender Blues Deluxe was the best thing I could afford in this no one's land where I happen to live. It was like paying a leg and a liver for that amp at the time. You guys up there have no idea how blessed you are in the sense that you can have the best stuff with less pain. I'm not saying that you don't have to fight to have your stuff. It's just that you get much more for your money.

    Having said that, I know the Blues Deluxe isn't one of the "to die for" Fender amps. I know it was made to look like a classic Fender amp, but the insides are common components with the most cost reduction in mind. I know the "real" Fender amps sound better, richer, you name it.

    For someone like me, who did not play a "real tube amp" until age 25, when I had been playing guitar for almost 20 years, having a Blues Deluxe was a real blessing. It may not be the best amp, but it doesn't suck IMO. It may sound a little "fender generic", but it's good enough for me to go onstage and shake my @ss when I need it. The nice thing about the Blues Deluxe is that I can "silence" the drummer with it. It's more efficient when I turn it towards the drummer and just blast and vaporize the bugger LOL

    As for the Blues Jr, I'd like to have one for home use and the little challenge/jam recordings I sometimes do. But I think a Fender Super Champ XD would suit that purpose much better, and with more flexibility.
     
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    I enjoyed my BJ Tweed. I did most of the billm mods and upgraded the speaker and tubes. It was a very nice sounding amp after the mods.
     
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    Regarding the reverb, I bought a brand new HRD IV and it convinced me that I didn't like spring reverb. Then I built a Princeton Reverb from a kit and it has me in love with spring reverb. I guess it's based on what Fezz said regarding the IC driven reverb. Just never got along with it.

    I didn't dislike (but also didn't love) the tone. Overall it was good, but I sold it because my PR build turned out awesome and was more than loud enough after I accidentally ended up making it an 18-20 watt amp.
     
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    fezz parka Making a record.... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The Pro Jr. is a great amp. Especially in a bigger box with a 12.
     
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    They are perfectly good amps used by lots of great players. I don't get it either. i guess looking down on things makes some people feel superior;)
     
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  10. Nate D

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    The thing is, the click down menu doesn’t have the soldering skills necessary.
     
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    I don’t know how to do that. Lol
     
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    You don't need to. You have great amps.
     
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  13. Seamus OReally

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    You seem to be implying that anyone who dislikes a BJr is somehow guided by an internal process that ignores the amp’s good qualities. Allow me to disabuse you of this notion: my first-gen Blooze Junior sucked out loud. It was not a perfectly good amp, not even after a speaker swap. In a year of trying I didn’t get a single usable track out of it. As I said before, I think they’re greatly improved, but the early ones are probably the source of the “hate,” if you can call it that.
     
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  14. fezz parka

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    People like lots of things and dislike others. Some people think McDonald's makes good hamburgers. Or that Taco Bell is good Mexican food.

    Would I use a Blooze Jr. if I had no other option? Sure. I know how to play and turn some knobs.
    I can make music with a First Act guitar through a Gorilla amp and have people enjoy it. But will I? Probably not.LOL
     
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    hahaha - taco bell pachabel.... i caught that sly plug for the practical music workshop #4
     
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    Many fans of this amp were sold on a long list of mods available for DIY. Between that, and other choices (that sound different) especially higher priced tube amps, there you have the story. ;)

    Wish I had the tweed version, hmm.
     
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    In all fairness to the new BJ I dont believe that the power amp or preamps are attached directly to the circuit board. They are attached on a seperate board from the main circuit board. The pots are attched directly but IMO that is not so much an issue as if it were the power tubes.

    For me playing it vs practically everything else Marshall, Vox or BlackStar offers in the same range its a pretty mediocre amp.

    For what it is I much rather bust out an extra 150-200$ bucks for a 68 Princeton or 68 Deluxe Reverb. With a 15% discount you can get either with a bit more cash and have a much much better amp.


    The amp just sounds like nothing impresionable or with character. Its litterally some amp the marketing team at Fender made to put at a price point. Just tried the newer one at GC the other day and somehow this version is the worst version yet.



    Given the opportunity cost.....Almost every other option for the same money or a bit more is a better option and IMO getting a Blues Junior for me is just throwing cash down the toilet.
     
  18. Will Lefeurve

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    @Seamus OReally it is your opinion, and you are most definitely entitled to it. However, I have a first generation BJ, bought new in 1996/7, and have found it most definitely usable. A superb amp, that's played hundreds of gigs, and been used at home as well. That's the trouble with opinions, everybody's got the ruddy things. Even more so since internet forums came into being.. ;)
     
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  19. Seamus OReally

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  20. Will Lefeurve

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    One man's "superb" is another man's "reaching".. ;):D
     
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