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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by MetalPedal, Sep 15, 2018.
Zappa was an outspoken wild man who did what he loved to do, how can that be wrong?
When I was younger I had one of those turntables that you could stack records on. Great for parties. "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" was always 3rd or 4th in the stack. It just seemed to provide just the right level of variation and complexity to keep a room going. Whereas DSOM would make a room go pretty quiet pretty quick, especially if it was a 'baking' oriented get together.
Different horses for different courses.
I was maybe a bit young, but I understand the times were such a huge part of it. I always saw him as a true artist who had something important to get across, even when he was being funny.
But I would be lying if I said I always got it, and thats OK too.
One of the best composers and guitarists of the 20th century if you ask me, and highly under-rated. He could have been so much bigger than he was but the dude had integrity and he did his own thing.
I got Frank.. I admired him enormously. He fascinated me. Not all the time though, I had to time my dosage.
I was aware of the 'cult' following of Zappa in my neck of the woods, and had no time for that. Wearing an 'artist' like Zappa as a fashion statement smacked of the.. we're cool crowd, and you're not joining our gang.
He was someone who was certainly politicly astute. I couldn't see a lot of the stuff he was trying to get over at the time, but I certainly can now. He knew what the game plan was..
A1. You haven't listened to enough of it yet...Perhaps you've only heard "FZ & the mothers" so far ?...His material / records tended to follow a formula, & guaranteed, there'd always be at least 1 x blow-away guitar instrumental on a record...And that's very much worth waiting for !
A2. Yes, Frank most certainly "took-the-Mickey" out of society, & the people within it. I'm surprised more folks weren't offended by his lyrics, but then again, they didn't get-it either, so it doesn't matter lol !
A3. The "Shut-up 'n play yer guitar" series of albums is well worth searching out. All instrumental music hand selected by Frank from various live performances.
1976's Live in New York is quite a good show too...You'll get to hear about the "Illinois Enema Bandit" for better or worse lol !
"My guitar wants to kill yer mama"
Around 1981/82 a friend of mine had a live album of Zappa doing "satirical" songs. Bebop Tango, Yellow Snow, etc.
At first, it was music to get high and laugh to, but shorty after, I began to appreciate the amazing musicianship of Zappa and his band.
ya know, different strokes. I have always been a fan of Frank. Smart guy.
He wasn't that popular. These are hardcore music people here who loved him.
Because of performances like this ! Frank was a monster !
Was he actually "that popular"? I don't think he ever was, really. The people who really loved and followed his music were dedicated, but not many compared to other artists of the day.
I found him an acquired taste that I never acquired. But he was funny as hell.
I haven't really listened to "alot" of Zappa but I have heard several songs. I don't own any of his music but it comes on a Pandora Channel I have and I like what I've heard. I like that weird stuff like Ween, Primus, etc.
^^^^^^This sums it up perfectly!!^^^^^^
Studebaker Hawk !
Most hear his name and go - o yeah the weird guy with the do not eat the yellow snow song...
while that is true and what I thought at first i found out he is at a musical level I will not achieve in this lifetime or the next no matter how hard I work. he just mixes it with a sense of humor to make entertainment so he can put on a show.
No record company would do business with him so he became the company and the agent along with being the band leader.
his band members are all top level gunslingers that could out play 99+% of the top level gunslingers. Most never notice this cuz they hear the do not eat the yellow snow part instead. Once I looked past the humor I was astounded by the level of musicianship, these people are the people the gurus call when they have a question.
1 of my faves -
He had a great face for wall posters, is the first I can recall giving his kids weird names (Moon, Dweezil, Ahmet, and Diva) who can forget "Valley Girl" from the early 80s? (And I've been trying.)
On his very first TV appearance he went on the Steve Allen show and played a bicycle!
I appreciated him as an avant garde figure of the times, but never got into him enough to actually buy any of his stuff.
And a second hand guitar
it was a stratocaster with a whammy bar