Why was Zappa so popular?

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  1. rafasounds

    rafasounds Senior Stratmaster

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    If somebody isn't particularly inclined to like something, it doesn't always mean they can't get it. I can ''get'' Frank Zappa. I don't think he's too hard to 'get'. I think he was a very good, unique player, and had a remarkable capacity of executing his ideas and leading people, apart from being an articulate and sometimes funny character, but his music just doesn't appeal do me.
     
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  2. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Mouth draggin' knuckle breather Silver Member

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    I was just going to comment on the "get it" factor...but, you made the point. Thanks :)
     
  3. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Zappa? Pure genius. His music? Very clever, but just doesn't hit my buttons (or not the right ones).
     
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  4. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Silver Member

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    If only everyone in this world expressed themselves in such a considered and balanced way! Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who think that if they don't like something "it sucks".

    I don't spend a lot of time listening to opera. It's not really 'my thing'. That doesn't mean Rossini, Wagner and Verdi were talentless buffoons.

    Thank you for being honest.
     
  5. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Mouth draggin' knuckle breather Silver Member

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    Getting "It"...

    The implication is...one isn't in with the cool kids and must sit at the geek table during lunch. I'm all for geeks and nerds, because they are cool with themselves.

    Might some of the same people who claim to "get it", rail against the so called "cork sniffery" of wanting a top of the line guitar...a well made instrument? I'll bet money on it...not all, but some.

    If the people who desire a museum quality guitar, for the beauty of the craft in the thing, would say people who can't tell the difference "just don't get it", don't cast our pearls before swine. I'll bet those people would be passing squeally worms out of their butts and carrying torches to storm the castle. Well I do want one, but I would never condescend to someone whose tastes are different...because for one thing...if a guitar costs $1.95 a ton, but, it sounds and plays good, it is good...but that doesn't lessen the quality in the more expensive one.

    In the same manner...when I go out to eat...I want something dead on my plate, not some friggin deconstructed meatloaf made out of foam and deep fried sprigs of basil. If I don't get it, not getting it might mean...the emperor is buck ass nekid, what is all the hubbub about? But, I would never (except for just then) tell the people who get into that stuff, I think the emperor is naked.

    My uncle and his two sons...owned a cigar store. The sons could, while blindfolded, tell you the filler, wrapper and manufacturer of a given cigar. I think they all tasted like smoking grapevine...people from the South will know that one.

    To each his own.:)
     
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  6. Sarnodude

    Sarnodude Senior Stratmaster

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    TBH in terms of record sales, he wasn't really that popular.
    (No disrespect was intended)
     
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  7. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    I think some people like Zappa's music in the way some people like raw oysters. It makes them feel like they're special.

    I'll stick to Jethro Tull. Complex music that actually sounds good.

    ;)
     
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  8. BuckNekkid

    BuckNekkid Strat-O-Master

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    +1

    Who Are the Brain Police?
    Trouble Comin' Every Day
    You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here
    Help I'm a Rock

    "Suzy? Suzy Creamcheese?"
     
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  9. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Mouth draggin' knuckle breather Silver Member

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    Haha! I hate boogers on the half shell, but I wouldn't judge anyone if they do...I might make her gargle before kissing her though. And I love Tull.
     
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    AncientAx Still hacking ....

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    I ain’t eating anything you have to put horseradish on to kill the nasty taste of it .....
     
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    Zappa I can listen to. Yoko Ono, on the other hand...
     
  12. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    All in good fun, fellow Strat-Talkers! :D
     
  13. BuckNekkid

    BuckNekkid Strat-O-Master

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    As indicated by the title of one of his albums: No Commercial Potential
     
  14. chrimturn

    chrimturn Fire in the Wire Silver Member

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    Squeally worms and torches...lol. Nice one.

    Similar to not liking peas. You avoid them when they’re put on your plate as a kid. Just nudge or scrape them to the edge. Grandpa gets tired of seeing it, so he starts putting them in between the scoops of mashed potatoes. If you don’t know they’re there...you’ll never know you’re eating them.

    Something to say about someone who doesn’t chase fame or riches by giving in to the popular mainstream or propaganda. Stuck to his guns and kept doing his own thing until people got curious enough to take a listen. Some kept listening, some didn’t.

    All depends on if you like the peas. Or if you have the means to try and layer them in between the mashed potatoes.
     
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    abnormaltoy Mouth draggin' knuckle breather Silver Member

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    Wow, if you ever want to be a Southerner, we'd accept you! :)
     
  16. simoncroft

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    It depends by what you mean. Hot Rats reached 173 in the Billboard Top 200 in 1969. However, it sold a lot better in Europe, reaching Top 10 positions in the UK and the Netherlands.

    While it's hardly Hotel California, he released 62 albums in his lifetime, with a further 49 released posthumously. Not many artists have 111 albums to their name.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa_discography
     
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  17. Tone Guru

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    Because he took himself seriously about what he did and didn't care if anyone else took him seriously.
    He said a lot of things lyrically that others thought but wouldn't say.
    Totally deadpan with an immense depth to his sense of humor.

    If you don't 'get' Zappa that's cool too because the joke's on you. :D
     
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    CigBurn Total Hack

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    Brilliant pedal name though..

    Buttworm.jpg
     
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  19. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Mouth draggin' knuckle breather Silver Member

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    would that be a buttique pedal?
     
  20. CigBurn

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    Except for maybe Buckethead, seems like thats about a years worth from him. :) Oddly similar cats though.
     
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