Your methods when you need to learn multiple songs quickly ??

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  1. Scott Baxendale

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    I put the track up on my DAW then loop the first measure until I can play it perfectly then I add the second measure and repeat until I have the whole piece. I can work on a section or a lead part or the whole tune this way.
     
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    Quit the band.

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    I envy you. There is no way I can nail a song just by ear (unless it's a Ramones-like song).

    Especially if t has some quirky parts and 'weird' chords, or very quick chord changes. I don't have that good a ear to recognize all chords. I need sheets or tabs, with rare exceptions. Sometimes I'll get the chord changes right, but I'll be in another key. Stuff like that.

    But I'm not, nor have ever been, a pro.
     
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    I did the work. ;)
     
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    No doubt about that. Very few things in life come without it.

    My envy is of the good kind, better phrased as 'admiration'. ;)
     
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    Late to the party...

    If I can, one at a time.
    If that isn't realistic, then...
    One at a time very fast.

    More about listening I think, rather than doing.
     
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    It's relatively simple.

    Learn how to harmonize the major scale using the seven modes.

    Then know the chord progression that it builds.

    Both the major and the relative minor.

    Then learn the circle progressions for both major and minor.

    All of the most used chord progressions are there.

    I/IV/IV.
    I/vi/IV/V.
    I/vi/ii/V.
    ii/V/I.

    Exceptions being:

    I/bVII/IV. Gloria. Takin' Care Of Business.

    Add the Andalusian Cadence and you'll have most songs covered.

    Then it's training your ear to hear it.

    Anyone can do this. In 6 months you'll hear the changes before they happen. :)
     
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  8. nickmsmith

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    I learned 4-5 songs, Vox and guitar in one night, to perform the next day. Wasn’t by choice, it was thrust upon me. Was not informed I’d be singing beforehand.

    You just listen to them endlessly, until they get stuck in your head. Chord charts might help. There’s no simple way to have them sink in, besides listening until they stick. Writing out the lines, chords or lyrics really helps.

    I forgot them as quickly as I learned them. I’ll never need them again, and I’m not fond of the music. I hope to never have to do that again.
     
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    Emphasis on 'relatively'. :D lol

    I was trained in classical piano for about 4 years, from 8 to 12yo. You made an incredibly good synthesis of the theory path, but I doubt anyone can travel it in 6 months, unless dedicated full time. And ear training is paramount. That takes some time too. I'm a lead player, and lead has its own problems of dynamics and legatos and whatnot, and practice is essencial to get some leads right. Especially for clumsy players like me.

    I intentionally forgot 85% of all theory I learned (ah, teenagers...), and only after my 30s I actually went back into it, lightly, mostly to cover my needs for jamming in blues/rock. IMO, I don't have a very good ear, FWIW.

    I'll actually print and keep your post, and work harder into it. I didn't appreciate the richness of classical training/theory when I had it, but I know better now. Your kind (and very didactic) reply has reminded me that I should go back to the 'math of music' in depth. Being a techie, it suits me well.

    Thanks! :thumb:
     
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    20 minutes day for six months is enough for anyone who can multiply 3x7 and get 21 to learn this.;)
     
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