Would you ever so kindly explain this saddle to me?

[Wayne Adams]

Sure, I can explain that. Sometimes people have bad ideas. You're welcome.

 

[Wayne Adams]

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Oooo, nice! First thing I'd do is toss the bridge into my ever-expanding junk drawer and get one with six saddles.

 

[Wayne Adams]

It sounds like buIIsh!t to me as well. While hammering will work-harden brass, I doubt that hammering the surface of a 3/8" bar will produce any noticeable tonal effects, but maybe it looks cool...

Speaking as an engineer with some experience of sheet metalwork, it's just not the same thing as hammering a cymbal.

I get bad vibes from any claim by a manufacturer that they have correctly pre-intonated a saddle. Mostly they get it wrong, and what if you want to fit a wound G?

I'm always open to ideas, but I'll fence-sit this one out until someone comes up with a credible rationale that doesn't depend on a celebrity endorsement.

I'm with you. But, then, I use an .008 - .048 custom set on my Tele, and I don't think the pre-intonation had that in mind...

 

[tonedesign]

People do stupid stuff.

 

[the Wired Turtle]

great thread, I just bought the Thorn version and stuck it on my rutters half saddle. pretty dang awesome!

 

[Della Street]

I’d give it a shot…but then again, I’ll try anything once.

Twice if it feels good.

Three times if it hurts.

I pulled this saddle out last night, it’s up for grabs now. Do you want to try it?

 

[Della Street]

I have removed this advanced saddle and will now sell it for high dollar.

But, to the primary claim of improved sustain... I still don't get it. There are 4 transfer points. Of those: two outer ones are doing the work, while the middle two can only be snugged up to make contact, and not a smidgen more because more torque might start lifting the sides. So how would that produce better contact with the bridge than 6 crews - 2 per barrel, equally torqued?

 

[The_idiot]

The idea is not is having great surfaces area as contact point but in having more mass in the saddle.

I would make the comparison to a Stratocaster with a big stamped steel block in comparison to a Stratocaster with a tapered slice of cheese block made of tin. It has the same surface contact area as the stamped steel block at the bridge plate but then tapers into something thin. It is also made of lower density metal.

I make no claim to acoustic pros and cons and sustain but this is the idea I believe.

 

[92 Fiesta Red 62]

I pulled this saddle out last night, it’s up for grabs now. Do you want to try it?

Yes!
DM me

 

[Ummagumma]

What I’ve been told by the oldsters was a bad intonated tele was country music. The ear became accustomed to it. Sounds about right to me. No offense intended

 

[Della Street]

The idea is not is having great surfaces area as contact point but in having more mass in the saddle.

I would make the comparison to a Stratocaster with a big stamped steel block in comparison to a Stratocaster with a tapered slice of cheese block made of tin. It has the same surface contact area as the stamped steel block at the bridge plate but then tapers into something thin. It is also made of lower density metal.

I make no claim to acoustic pros and cons and sustain but this is the idea I believe.

I tend to confuse resonance with guitar tickling my belly from string vibration. Mass it is.

 

[The_idiot]

I tend to confuse resonance with guitar tickling my belly from string vibration. Mass it is.

They all do this no? I have of course felt this vibration against belly and then quickly changed guitar for another guitar and strummed the same chord, like everyone probably does. I came to the conclusion that I cannot be trusted because although all the different stratocasters feel different, I cannot pinpoint with differences in belly-wobble test.

I do not own Stratocaster that sucks chord into a vacuum and outputs nothing. Is this characteristic of Squier?

 

[Della Street]

They all do this no? I have of course felt this vibration against belly and then quickly changed guitar for another guitar and strummed the same chord, like everyone probably does. I came to the conclusion that I cannot be trusted because although all the different stratocasters feel different, I cannot pinpoint with differences in belly-wobble test.

I do not own Stratocaster that sucks chord into a vacuum and outputs nothing. Is this characteristic of Squier?

Belly jiggle is the ultimate test - as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Mitch88]

I have removed this advanced saddle and will now sell it for high dollar.

But, to the primary claim of improved sustain... I still don't get it. There are 4 transfer points. Of those: two outer ones are doing the work, while the middle two can only be snugged up to make contact, and not a smidgen more because more torque might start lifting the sides. So how would that produce better contact with the bridge than 6 crews - 2 per barrel, equally torqued?

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You could turn the middle screw around opposite so it screws against the back plate and acts as a dampener. But it looks a handmade, one-off. But i agree with The Dirocyn.