Squier classic vibe 50s or 60s

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bonolee07

Strat-Talk Member
Dec 25, 2011
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Hi all I'm looking at these 2 guitars the 50s or 60s classic vibe I already own the CVC Telecaster.
I am mainly wanting one for the second position quack as I am mainly playing U2 stuff and the Tele is not quite right for a lot of the songs, which one would suit me most, feedback would be appreciated as I am quite a distance from any music store so probably will have to buy online

Cheers

Steve
 

blackstrat

Senior Stratmaster
Nov 9, 2009
1,200
Greece
The answer is simple, if you prefer a maple fretboard go for the 50's, rosewood - 60's. There are some slight sonic differences too but it also depends on the particular guitar - for instance when i got my 50's there were two 50's and one 60's in the shop for me to try. I think I heard a bigger difference between the two 50's than the 60's and any 50's one.

However, for U2 stuff the maple is thought to have a bit more clarity so probably it's a better choice and most likely the Edge agrees - I don't think that I have ever seen him with a rosewood board strat!
 

oakhills

Strat Cat
Aug 7, 2009
7,698
Bay Area
The pups, hardware, everything is the same except for the fretboard material. Pick the one that feels comfortable, a lot of people dislike the glossy maple fretboard and prefer the grip of rosewood.
 

maplebeans

Strat-Talk Member
Aug 29, 2010
67
Ontario, Canada
I say neither. Go for the VM 70's strat with black on black. Save 100 bucks and even look like the edge!

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TSims1

Most Honored Senior Member
Aug 9, 2009
9,036
Atlanta, GA
The pups, hardware, everything is the same except for the fretboard material. Pick the one that feels comfortable, a lot of people dislike the glossy maple fretboard and prefer the grip of rosewood.

Actually, the pickups are a bit different. The 50s uses alnico 3 magnets, and the 60s uses alnico 5 magnets. The 50s model sounds glassier, a bit brighter, and sometimes just a bit more brittle[though not necessarily in a bad way]around the edges to my ears. The 60s on the other hand, just a bit more mellow, round, and slightly warmer to my ears. BUT, all of that said, the differences may or may not matter to you as much as the feel of maple vs rosewood. When it comes to the CV Strats, the 60s model has the lead for me personally.
 

MattSD

Strat-Talk Member
May 23, 2012
49
San Diego
Of all the CV strats I've heard I tend to lean toward the 50's. Which is bizarre because I would usually choose a RW fret board over maple any day of the week. Tsims1 rightly points out that the 60's are supposed to sound a little rounder and mellower while the 50's should be a bit brighter. However, in my experience the 50's model just sounds a little sweeter. I have no idea why that is, I should prefer the 60's version in every way (but the color choices) but when I hear them I almost always think the 50's sounds better. Weird phenomenon. I don't think you can go wrong with either, at the end of the day they are very similar.
 

CapeRR

Strat-O-Master
Aug 11, 2010
670
Nova Scotia, Canada
For U2 stuff I'd def go for the 50s w/ maple or the Vintage Modified 70's black/maple and save yourself $130 like it's been suggested. Can't go wrong either way.....the VM 70's maple neck is chunkier than the CV's too.
 

FenderKustom

Banned
Apr 3, 2012
101
nice
Either way you go the 1st thing I would do to ANY Squier vintage tremolo is replace the two outter srcews with full size Fender screws. The stock outter screws are a joke.
 

schaloux

Strat-Talk Member
Aug 1, 2011
67
montreal canada
I own a cvc tele too and i love my cv50 strat ! The pups are greatin that strat. A lot of guitar for that money in that featherweight strat.
 

stratelespaul

Strat-O-Master
Apr 28, 2012
677
South Central Los Angeles
If you have a decent stomp box eq, keep what you have and just dial in your desired tone.
If it's already set to a tone you dig, get another one and set it to the other tone you're looking for and kick it on at will.
Best of luck
 

eyerish

Senior Stratmaster
Mar 15, 2009
1,094
Arizona
Actually, the pickups are a bit different. The 50s uses alnico 3 magnets, and the 60s uses alnico 5 magnets. The 50s model sounds glassier, a bit brighter, and sometimes just a bit more brittle[though not necessarily in a bad way]around the edges to my ears. The 60s on the other hand, just a bit more mellow, round, and slightly warmer to my ears. BUT, all of that said, the differences may or may not matter to you as much as the feel of maple vs rosewood. When it comes to the CV Strats, the 60s model has the lead for me personally.

I pretty much agree with that. I really love my CV50s Tele. With the A3 pups. It has to my ears a kind of hair to it. It is great for me to rock with. In a pine body the A3 is great.

I also have an SX tele that I bought a few years ago from a guy on TDPRI. His name,Rob DiStefano. He modded the heck out of this. It has the A3 pups and nut and tuners from a CV50 tele and a 4 way switch with American electronics.
An alder body and maple neck. It is a wailer for sure. The CV pups to me are quite good. So A3s in alder works quite well too. Its all a matter of personal taste anyway.

The CV60 Strat I have is the Simon Neil Biffy Clyro sig model. The pups in it are the equivalent of Tonerider's Pure Vintage. Which are a mix of A3/A5 magnets in each pup. I LOVE these pups. One of the stratty'est strats I have played,and I have been blessed with playing and owning strats from the mid fifties to now.

I will admit though,I am not much for bonding with the A5 pups in a pine body,or the CVC alder. I love the CVC and want to get another one. I will however if the CVC I get because I like it,doesn't speak to me pup wise,Swappity,swap,swap. The BSB CV50 tele I had was a beautiful guitar that just didn't do it for me. I didn't want to mess with its originality so I put it up for sale and ended up with a trade. I know the person who has it now is making it a whip-crackin' string slinger for a special person in his life.

The CVs are excellent made guitars. The electrics can always be swapped as Tony knows and does. So I say don't get hung up on The pups. Just hang on a good one,mod to taste if needed and play your bum off.

My cv50 strat with A5s is also not my fave. I love the git not the pups/electronics. However I will probably do some elec/pup swaps and have me another super strat(no not with a humbucker just ...you know....Super..LoL)

Play ON Y'all
 

herrdoktor

Strat-Talker
Feb 15, 2011
305
Rome
I pretty much agree with that. I really love my CV50s Tele. With the A3 pups. It has to my ears a kind of hair to it. It is great for me to rock with. In a pine body the A3 is great.

I also have an SX tele that I bought a few years ago from a guy on TDPRI. His name,Rob DiStefano. He modded the heck out of this. It has the A3 pups and nut and tuners from a CV50 tele and a 4 way switch with American electronics.
An alder body and maple neck. It is a wailer for sure. The CV pups to me are quite good. So A3s in alder works quite well too. Its all a matter of personal taste anyway.

The CV60 Strat I have is the Simon Neil Biffy Clyro sig model. The pups in it are the equivalent of Tonerider's Pure Vintage. Which are a mix of A3/A5 magnets in each pup. I LOVE these pups. One of the stratty'est strats I have played,and I have been blessed with playing and owning strats from the mid fifties to now.

I will admit though,I am not much for bonding with the A5 pups in a pine body,or the CVC alder. I love the CVC and want to get another one. I will however if the CVC I get because I like it,doesn't speak to me pup wise,Swappity,swap,swap. The BSB CV50 tele I had was a beautiful guitar that just didn't do it for me. I didn't want to mess with its originality so I put it up for sale and ended up with a trade. I know the person who has it now is making it a whip-crackin' string slinger for a special person in his life.

The CVs are excellent made guitars. The electrics can always be swapped as Tony knows and does. So I say don't get hung up on The pups. Just hang on a good one,mod to taste if needed and play your bum off.

My cv50 strat with A5s is also not my fave. I love the git not the pups/electronics. However I will probably do some elec/pup swaps and have me another super strat(no not with a humbucker just ...you know....Super..LoL)

Play ON Y'all

Hi, I've a Squier Affinity with a lot of mods and Tonerider Pure Vintage.
I have fallen in love for sound of a CV 50 that I have heard in some youtube videos.

Saturday I tested the CV50 (sunburst) and I was disappointed....
I desired to buy it because is really beautiful and has a stunning glossed flamed maple neck, but my guitar sounds much better.
Simone Neil sig. model has the same sound of my guitar and IMHO has best compromise quality/price.
 

oakhills

Strat Cat
Aug 7, 2009
7,698
Bay Area
Actually, the pickups are a bit different. The 50s uses alnico 3 magnets, and the 60s uses alnico 5 magnets. The 50s model sounds glassier, a bit brighter, and sometimes just a bit more brittle[though not necessarily in a bad way]around the edges to my ears. The 60s on the other hand, just a bit more mellow, round, and slightly warmer to my ears. BUT, all of that said, the differences may or may not matter to you as much as the feel of maple vs rosewood. When it comes to the CV Strats, the 60s model has the lead for me personally.

oops, I was thinking of the Classic Series
 

nickmsmith

Dr. Stratster
Jul 28, 2011
14,510
Gravity Falls, USA
However, for U2 stuff the maple is thought to have a bit more clarity so probably it's a better choice and most likely the Edge agrees - I don't think that I have ever seen him with a rosewood board strat!

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Now you have ;)

Sound is in the player. Or in the edge's case, in the delay pedal. :)

Edge used les Pauls for at least one or two albums. He's no respecter of brands or fretboard type, etc, I don't think.

He does evidently wear those stupid n sync headsets though. Negative cool points.

And really, in most cases when someone is a famous strat only guy, it's because fender pays them to be that way. That was definitely the case with Jimi and SRV. They often played their gibby types up until fender decided it was time for them to be "strat guys"
 

blackstrat

Senior Stratmaster
Nov 9, 2009
1,200
Greece
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fen-strat-50s-nat-euro-elevation-1.jpg


the_edge_stratocaster-150-150.jpg


Now you have ;)

Sound is in the player. Or in the edge's case, in the delay pedal. :)

Edge used les Pauls for at least one or two albums. He's no respecter of brands or fretboard type, etc, I don't think.

He does evidently wear those stupid n sync headsets though. Negative cool points.

And really, in most cases when someone is a famous strat only guy, it's because fender pays them to be that way. That was definitely the case with Jimi and SRV. They often played their gibby types up until fender decided it was time for them to be "strat guys"

Yes, thanks for the enlightment! :)

He also has an explorer which was one of his first "good" guitars if I remember correctly. I'm not a fan of U2 but the Edge sure is an innovative guitarist!

To reinforce your point, all of fender's top strat players (Clapton, Beck, Hendrix, Knopfler, Gallagher, E. Johnson etc) also play(ed) gibsons regularly and some of them even had the occasional signature model -Oxblood Les paul anyone??
 

maplebeans

Strat-Talk Member
Aug 29, 2010
67
Ontario, Canada
Although the Edge has been known to play a rosewood strat, it's safe to say the vast majority of the time he plays a strat it's a maple neck, and usually a 70's strat as well. Just do a google image search on Edge strat and see what I mean.

For those Joshua tree and Rattle and hum type sounds the strat quack is essential. FWIW I have a CV50 and a VM70 and they both do good U2 sounds. I might give the edge (pardon the pun) to the vm though. A little hotter pickups that maybe slightly better match the edges set-up (but it could just be the paint job fooling me). I'm sure you'd be happy with either CV for edge stuff.


Here's a sample of my VM70 playing some u2 stuff (if you can excuse the player)...

U2 sample songs on Squier Vintage Modifed 70's Stratocaster by maplebeans on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

(Is there away to imbed this?)
 

bonolee07

Strat-Talk Member
Dec 25, 2011
16
maplebeans said:
Although the Edge has been known to play a rosewood strat, it's safe to say the vast majority of the time he plays a strat it's a maple neck, and usually a 70's strat as well. Just do a google image search on Edge strat and see what I mean.

For those Joshua tree and Rattle and hum type sounds the strat quack is essential. FWIW I have a CV50 and a VM70 and they both do good U2 sounds. I might give the edge (pardon the pun) to the vm though. A little hotter pickups that maybe slightly better match the edges set-up (but it could just be the paint job fooling me). I'm sure you'd be happy with either CV for edge stuff.

Here's a sample of my VM70 playing some u2 stuff (if you can excuse the player)...

U2 sample songs on Squier Vintage Modifed 70's Stratocaster by maplebeans on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

(Is there away to imbed this?)

Sounds really good but what amp/simulator do you use?
I am still drawn towards the 60s classic vibe though, I've seen loads of videos and the quacks defiantly there on it as you really need vintage pups I have heard many times on the Internet, the hotter pups are not the same.
 

Maiki Starwood

New Member!
Jun 21, 2012
4
Australia
I have a Candy Red CV60 & it plays & sounds so good, the tone takes me straight back to the great classic bands of the 60's era. I mean this is a Squier, for goodness sake! How on Earth did the Chinese get it so right? That's what I'd like to know.
 
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